Are bun huggers dead?

A mature coach wouldn't be posting on LR.com

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http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5472893&page=7#ixzz2kIDeiddH

What?! Renato Canova is a mature coach. I'm a mature coach. I'm sure many other mature coaches post here.

anybody? wrote:

That is not how you worded it earlier. He said you did not have bad legs and that you looked fine in them. Now, you say he said nice legs and a good body. There is a difference.

He said both; it was a 20-ish minute conversation. I'm also willing to believe he had no clue how I looked in buns but was just trying to make me feel better about wearing them by saying I had the body for them, which is also a problem. Either way, problem.

Lighten up, francis. Don't pretend that you wouldn't shake to snag a fat wallet.

note how she has rolled the waistband. soccer players roll thier waistband too to show more leg. another case for non-functionality but the girls just want to show more skin. What the younger ones don't realize is what this display does to the guys. they justify it as performance but it is really just a culture thing.

another average american wrote:

but it's really weird when a 50-year-old male AD tells a 14-year-old girl that she has a good body and has nice legs and shouldn't be afraid to rock the buns.

So now I will call you out. Are you implying it would be okay for a 25 year old AD to make this comment? I think you are being unintentionally biased against the guy's age JUST THE SAME as you feel the AD was against you as a 14 year old girl. Tough to hold him to the fire for the very same uninformed ignorant comment as you.

I am a 48 year old coach of boys and girls. I would never dream of allowing the girls to run in BH. We are at races to get attention through hard work, dedication, and performance, not bun huggers, painting our body, or dressing as a banana.

This is getting heated, good debate folks.

I am not intending anything heated.

I am trying to help what I assume is a younger person to realize that 'some' older generations say stupid things without ill intent due to the filter of the generation in which they were raised.

The AD 'may' not have intended anything disrespectful just as the person I addressed did not either. However, both could be viewed in that manner for the purpose of this argument.

Good point.

I feel this thread needs more pictures (and videos). I hope these weren't posted already:

http://i.imgur.com/JCAxw.jpg

http://www.macsportsphotos.net/d/124100-2/2005_10_29_ccwomen286.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3237/3093900225_14d8c196cc_z.jpg?zz=1

Actually, if you look above I said this:

It's definitely not okay for anyone to say that. I'm a 25-year-old female coach and I specifically said it's not okay for *me* to say it either. So I don't think I'm being biased here.

But yes, I agree with your second paragraph.

Point taken.

I did not read beyond the specific post I referenced.

Continue to stand up for the kids!

The pictures prove it, anybody the vast majority of top running race in buns. How can so many people be so uptight about them? Relax, live and let live.

this is unreal wrote:

How can so many people be so uptight about them? Relax, live and let live.

Exactly what I think :) Live and let live.

another average american wrote:

Exactly what I think :) Live and let live.

You said you agreed with the guy who said he wouldn't let girls wear bun huggers. Doesn't sound like "live and let live" to me. You should allow them to wear what they want and not say bun huggers are too revealing or something.

That was my point. The exact words he used to support the other side should actually be used to support *my* position.

To me, "live and let live" implies that you should be able to wear buns if you want but you shouldn't get bent out of shape if somebody else doesn't want to, which is what my argument has been all along.

AAA is one of the only sane posters on this thread.

I don't feel like digging through the thread to grab everyone's name. But:

- If you think that wearing bun huggers is somehow lewd or gross or inappropriate or whatever, that's silly. It's a racing uniform. You're the one sexualizing it. Maybe some guys find it titillating - big deal, I know plenty of girls drooling over Bolt, and he wears shorts.

- If you think that girls should be required to wear bun huggers because everyone else does... why? On my track team of >70 people, I don't believe anyone wore bun huggers, and I don't believe anyone wore the same shorts as anyone else. Did it hamper our performance (individually or teamwise)? Did we lose respect from our competitors? Did we lose confidence in ourselves? No, no, and no.

College might be a different game in terms of uniform - I wouldn't know as I'm in HS. But even at the college level, if I were a coach, I'd have my athletes wear whatever gear (other than singlets, obviously) would make them most able to perform. If they were self-conscious in bun huggers, it'd probably hurt their performance, and I wouldn't want that.

- AAA is spot on with her comments about her AD. An older person in a position of power compliment a minor on having nice legs? Very, very sleazy, and not even relevant to the debate at hand. If "you have nice legs" is a valid reason to make a girl wear bun huggers, "you have a nice package" should be a good reason to have the guys wear codpieces. They're both equally essential to the sport - that is, they aren't.

In conclusion, give girls the choice where possible. Give guys the choice too. I don't see how forcing a potentially problematic uniform on kids is conducive to good competition. And yes, an item of clothing showing that much skin IS potentially problematic.

Generally speaking, Americans are very puritan about nudity and revealing their bodies in public when compared to Europeans and Aussies. Twitter and social media are helping to free the minds of Americans but there remains still a very long way to go to close the gap. It is very odd that in such a free nation as the United States, petty sexual issues disrupt social order, and Muslims are treated externally by the Obama Administration with zero regard for human rights. That said, individuals should be able to choose for themselves what type of shorts or top they wear. It should be the job of apparel designers to ensure that the various choices appear as consistent as possible to maintain the team image.

There is always a comment that implies how much better Europeans are in some way.

I'm happy to be American where we clean ourselves more than once a week. Maybe Europeans hould be a little more puritan.