"Democracy cannot survive when one side believes there are only two outcomes to an election: either they win or they were cheated. And that’s where M*GA Republicans are today."
I thought for sure you were gonna say Al Gore. or Hillary. crazy. democracy can’t survive with communists like yourself in it. #uneedtomove
I wasn't old enough to vote for or against him so I say this as someone who is just watching from the sidelines, but these all sound way too vague to take seriously. Bottom line is he has free speech rights to claim he won the election regardless of what the correct vote count is.
I'm not from the US, but it seems increasingly to be a country similar to Turkey or Russia where the political opposition use criminal law as a tool to get into power, or to deter applicants standing for the opposition. Isn't Clinton supposed to have done far worse? Is Obama squeaky clean? How about the people behind Biden?
I agree with you that these charges are worryingly vague and all encompassing. I would expect to see charges much more specifically created as offences in a first world country. The nature of those charges mean that they are open to abuse by political opponents.
"Democracy cannot survive when one side believes there are only two outcomes to an election: either they win or they were cheated. And that’s where M*GA Republicans are today."
I thought for sure you were gonna say Al Gore. or Hillary. crazy. democracy can’t survive with communists like yourself in it. #uneedtomove
Seriously, if you can’t see the difference between the legal challenges of Bush-Gore and the frustration of Hillary Clinton voters and the FAKE ELECTOR SCHEME you simply are trying not to see it.
Reasons that everybody on this thread who is defending Trump can and should be ignored:
1) They have almost certainly not read the indictments and won't. They are not qualified to comment on this one or the two indictments prior to this.
2) If you replaced the name Donald Trump in the indictments with the name Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama or Joseph Biden, they would be back to "Lock 'em up!" chants, and they know it. They are not capable of being impartial.
3) They very well could be Russian bots from a troll farm trying to foment trouble in America to undermine democracy. Ask yourself, "Can anyone really be this stupid?" If the answer is "No," then you might be responding to a bot.
I'm curious what Trump's supporters will say when all his closest aides and maybe even family testify against him. Its fascinating as someone who has lived in NYC for a VERY long time and has a pretty up close and personal view of Trump. He legitimately is the worst of the worst. Defrauding everyone. He has had to pay millions in fines for essentially being a con artist yet people still fall for his nonsense. Drain the Swamp? How is putting your family members and only those who swear loyalty to you draining the swamp? Forget about anything else. Answer that one question. The other thing is... this is not about Biden or Clinton. If there was a legal case against either, believe me, Trump would have done everything possible to lock them up. Problem was... there was no case to be be had. Yet in plain sight we literally watched Trump and his co-conspirators try and change the election results. There is literally no debating that. Its 100% fact. Regardless... I look forward to the day where every loyal aide, lawyer and politician take the stand and testify against him. The dude is going to jail... its pretty clear.
It may be hard for Americans to understand this, but for Trump to even be the subject of conversation let alone the subject of numerous criminal indictments while being a former President seeking re-election is beyond belief in any other democracy, and shows how truly sick America has become.
It may be hard for Americans to understand this, but for Trump to even be the subject of conversation let alone the subject of numerous criminal indictments while being a former President seeking re-election is beyond belief in any other democracy, and shows how truly sick DONALD TRUMP AND EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTS HIM IS.
Fixed it for you.
Turing a blind eye to the crimes that he obviously committed and to a a coup attempt would be beyond belief. Pursuing charges against obvious criminals, regardless of what job they once held and would like to hold again is what we call "the rule of law."
Indicting Trump shows the strength of this country, not a weakness.
Reasons that everybody on this thread who is defending Trump can and should be ignored:
1) They have almost certainly not read the indictments and won't. They are not qualified to comment on this one or the two indictments prior to this.
2) If you replaced the name Donald Trump in the indictments with the name Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama or Joseph Biden, they would be back to "Lock 'em up!" chants, and they know it. They are not capable of being impartial.
3) They very well could be Russian bots from a troll farm trying to foment trouble in America to undermine democracy. Ask yourself, "Can anyone really be this stupid?" If the answer is "No," then you might be responding to a bot.
If I didn't know so many Trumpers myself I'd believe these are 'bots, but unfortunately there are a LOT of Americans who refuse to do any real investigating when it comes to their beloved Trump. He brought them what they wanted as President and they're willing to look past Anything and Everything in hopes of having him back in power. I'd guarantee none of them listened to the 1/6 Investigation interviews. The ones that described what DJT was doing as folks were storming the capital that day. They don't want to hear what actually happened, and what he was and wasn't doing. It's a sad state of affairs on the right currently. Hopefully they'll move past this grifter as he hopefully ends up serving some much deserved time.
I'm curious what Trump's supporters will say when all his closest aides and maybe even family testify against him. It’s fascinating as someone who has lived in NYC for a VERY long time and has a pretty up close and personal view of Trump. He legitimately is the worst of the worst. Defrauding everyone. He has had to pay millions in fines for essentially being a con artist yet people still fall for his nonsense. Drain the Swamp? How is putting your family members and only those who swear loyalty to you draining the swamp? Forget about anything else. Answer that one question. The other thing is... this is not about Biden or Clinton. If there was a legal case against either, believe me, Trump would have done everything possible to lock them up. Problem was... there was no case to be be had. Yet in plain sight we literally watched Trump and his co-conspirators try and change the election results. There is literally no debating that. It’s 100% fact. Regardless... I look forward to the day where every loyal aide, lawyer and politician take the stand and testify against him. The dude is going to jail... its pretty clear.
They are going to say you are a dead on communist who has tried writing these indictments since 2016, daily I might add, and that it will be a cold day in h*LL before we allow communists to take America. Simply writing up indictments to satisfy your disease, and further taking down attorneys who dare to represent one of your opposition leader targets, means little other than exposing you for what and who you are, someone afraid of the vote and afraid to live in a World where not every single person shares your opinion.
we would also say…and wait for it.,..wait for it….
And Trumpets will support him fully. He is their childlike imbecile and is not smart enough to know reality from lies. And therefore needs to be President again.
That actually makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Isn't the POTUS the most protected person on the planet? Wouldn't it make sense to have such a childlike imbecile under such complete protection?
They are going to say you are a dead on communist who has tried writing these indictments since 2016, daily I might add, and that it will be a cold day in h*LL before we allow communists to take America. Simply writing up indictments to satisfy your disease, and further taking down attorneys who dare to represent one of your opposition leader targets, means little other than exposing you for what and who you are, someone afraid of the vote and afraid to live in a World where not every single person shares your opinion.
we would also say…and wait for it.,..wait for it….
We have the Supreme Court.
You have the Supreme Court? Who is 'you'? And what do you mean by 'have it'?
While I disagree vehemently with several major decisions the Supreme Court has made lately -- they do appear to still believe in separation of powers and having a judiciary that is not beholden to or under the control of the president. They do NOT want a president to be above the law. No kings -- rule of law.
It may be hard for Americans to understand this, but for Trump to even be the subject of conversation let alone the subject of numerous criminal indictments while being a former President seeking re-election is beyond belief in any other democracy, and shows how truly sick DONALD TRUMP AND EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTS HIM IS.
Fixed it for you.
Turing a blind eye to the crimes that he obviously committed and to a a coup attempt would be beyond belief. Pursuing charges against obvious criminals, regardless of what job they once held and would like to hold again is what we call "the rule of law."
Indicting Trump shows the strength of this country, not a weakness.
I understand the distinction you are seeking to make but it shouldn't have come to this; therein lies the "sickness". You remain on the edge of a precipice because of what millions of Americans believe, who continue to support Trump. Your justice system is fighting for the life of your democracy.
I'm curious what Trump's supporters will say when all his closest aides and maybe even family testify against him. It’s fascinating as someone who has lived in NYC for a VERY long time and has a pretty up close and personal view of Trump. He legitimately is the worst of the worst. Defrauding everyone. He has had to pay millions in fines for essentially being a con artist yet people still fall for his nonsense. Drain the Swamp? How is putting your family members and only those who swear loyalty to you draining the swamp? Forget about anything else. Answer that one question. The other thing is... this is not about Biden or Clinton. If there was a legal case against either, believe me, Trump would have done everything possible to lock them up. Problem was... there was no case to be be had. Yet in plain sight we literally watched Trump and his co-conspirators try and change the election results. There is literally no debating that. It’s 100% fact. Regardless... I look forward to the day where every loyal aide, lawyer and politician take the stand and testify against him. The dude is going to jail... its pretty clear.
They are going to say you are a dead on communist who has tried writing these indictments since 2016, daily I might add, and that it will be a cold day in h*LL before we allow communists to take America. Simply writing up indictments to satisfy your disease, and further taking down attorneys who dare to represent one of your opposition leader targets, means little other than exposing you for what and who you are, someone afraid of the vote and afraid to live in a World where not every single person shares your opinion.
we would also say…and wait for it.,..wait for it….
We have the Supreme Court.
You “have” Clarence Thomas. He will do everything in his power to defend Trump under any circumstances (obviously his wife is also in this up to her eyeballs). Alito will likely be EXTREMELY sympathetic to Trump’s case. So far, none of the others have shown a tendency to support Trump’s efforts at overturning the election.
Reasons that everybody on this thread who is defending Trump can and should be ignored:
1) They have almost certainly not read the indictments and won't. They are not qualified to comment on this one or the two indictments prior to this.
2) If you replaced the name Donald Trump in the indictments with the name Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama or Joseph Biden, they would be back to "Lock 'em up!" chants, and they know it. They are not capable of being impartial.
3) They very well could be Russian bots from a troll farm trying to foment trouble in America to undermine democracy. Ask yourself, "Can anyone really be this stupid?" If the answer is "No," then you might be responding to a bot.
If I didn't know so many Trumpers myself I'd believe these are 'bots, but unfortunately there are a LOT of Americans who refuse to do any real investigating when it comes to their beloved Trump. He brought them what they wanted as President and they're willing to look past Anything and Everything in hopes of having him back in power. I'd guarantee none of them listened to the 1/6 Investigation interviews. The ones that described what DJT was doing as folks were storming the capital that day. They don't want to hear what actually happened, and what he was and wasn't doing. It's a sad state of affairs on the right currently. Hopefully they'll move past this grifter as he hopefully ends up serving some much deserved time.
In that case, we can conclude that #1 (they have not read the indictment) and #2 (they are not capable of being impartial and objective) apply and, as for point #3, we would conclude, sadly, that "Yes, some people really are this irretrievably stupid."
I see CNN circle-jerk blabbering about how Donald could only be convicted if he knowingly made statements about a rigged election and didn't genuinely believe his own statements (aka made knowingly false statements to incite a riot). Of course this is laughable because he obviously believed what he was saying.
There is a large section in the Indictment addressing the issue of whether Trump actually believed he won the election. You have obviously not read it or you would not have made such an uninformed post.
I understand the distinction you are seeking to make but it shouldn't have come to this; therein lies the "sickness". You remain on the edge of a precipice because of what millions of Americans believe, who continue to support Trump. Your justice system is fighting for the life of your democracy.
They are going to say you are a dead on communist who has tried writing these indictments since 2016, daily I might add, and that it will be a cold day in h*LL before we allow communists to take America. Simply writing up indictments to satisfy your disease, and further taking down attorneys who dare to represent one of your opposition leader targets, means little other than exposing you for what and who you are, someone afraid of the vote and afraid to live in a World where not every single person shares your opinion.
we would also say…and wait for it.,..wait for it….
We have the Supreme Court.
You “have” Clarence Thomas. He will do everything in his power to defend Trump under any circumstances (obviously his wife is also in this up to her eyeballs). Alito will likely be EXTREMELY sympathetic to Trump’s case. So far, none of the others have shown a tendency to support Trump’s efforts at overturning the election.
What you communists choose to ignore is the Supreme Court, which m*ga very proudly benched 3. count them again. 3. Thomas just a bonus.
In all of your insatiable appetite to feed your disease, you ignored the thing that matters most. so thinking you are just gonna lock up the opposition leader in cuffs and throw away the key in a matter of months is nothing more than a JKRowlings novel. many of us have read that, but we don’t really believe in Harry Potter.
this is jus entertainment for m*ga, to watch your silly hired gun feed you.
Criminal charges against D.J.T. read serious but law makers write all charges to read serious. Spitting on sidewalk can be read as a serious charge.
* Many or all presidents take documents. How else do you believe they have material for their post-president library.
* Many former government employees take documents.
* I see nothing serious. Where are the names of C.I.A. &/or O.N.I. employees and human assets?
* Where are illegal weapon and munition transactions?
* I don't see any evidence of selling specs for most modern weapon systems.
So many former presidents engage in graft and corruption. Interesting how B.H.O. was near broke 15 or 16 years ago but he has 70 million dollars now from a $400,000/yr. job. W. Clinton sure got rich after he left office. Could it be D.J.T. would have told Jackie Speier and the rest of warmongers in d.n.c. no to ukraine conflict?
The primary defense being discussed on Fox and Twitter is that there is a First Amendment right to discuss conspiracies with co-conspirators. Freedom of speech and all.
You “have” Clarence Thomas. He will do everything in his power to defend Trump under any circumstances (obviously his wife is also in this up to her eyeballs). Alito will likely be EXTREMELY sympathetic to Trump’s case. So far, none of the others have shown a tendency to support Trump’s efforts at overturning the election.
What you communists choose to ignore is the Supreme Court, which m*ga very proudly benched 3. count them again. 3. Thomas just a bonus.
In all of your insatiable appetite to feed your disease, you ignored the thing that matters most. so thinking you are just gonna lock up the opposition leader in cuffs and throw away the key in a matter of months is nothing more than a JKRowlings novel. many of us have read that, but we don’t really believe in Harry Potter.
this is jus entertainment for m*ga, to watch your silly hired gun feed you.
You “have” Clarence Thomas. He will do everything in his power to defend Trump under any circumstances (obviously his wife is also in this up to her eyeballs). Alito will likely be EXTREMELY sympathetic to Trump’s case. So far, none of the others have shown a tendency to support Trump’s efforts at overturning the election.
What you communists choose to ignore is the Supreme Court, which m*ga very proudly benched 3. count them again. 3. Thomas just a bonus.
In all of your insatiable appetite to feed your disease, you ignored the thing that matters most. so thinking you are just gonna lock up the opposition leader in cuffs and throw away the key in a matter of months is nothing more than a JKRowlings novel. many of us have read that, but we don’t really believe in Harry Potter.
this is jus entertainment for m*ga, to watch your silly hired gun feed you.
You don't seem to understand how the Supreme Court and the federal appeals system works at all. What you are envisioning at the Supreme Court is never going to happen even if you magically beamed in 9 Clarence Thomas clones.