Monson proves that Shelby was clean when she ran 14:23

Added Perspective wrote:

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

You’re missing the part that Shelby might’ve been Americas best runner because she was doping.

Think about the implication of what you’re saying. The USA’s second best 1500 runner after Shelby is/was Elle Purrier St. Pierre. There’s an even bigger gap between the world’s best 1500 runners and Elle than there was between those runners and Shelby. Do you really think so lowly of the United States that you believe the world’s top runners are all clean yet somehow vastly better than the best American? Not buying it!

The enormous gap between the world’s best and America’s best is very clearly a doping gap. In the fall of 2020, Shelby did the only thing she thought she could to close that gap.

Added Perspective wrote:

I believe that Shelby didn’t start doping until after the 2019 world championships when she ran the race of her life and still got crushed. Today’s run by Monson validates my belief. If Monson can run 14:19 while clean, that makes it more likely that Shelby was clean when she ran 14:23.

Ragnar D wrote:

Shelby was clean then, and is clean still. The doofuses here still believe that the system is clean too. Sheep-like and braindead, it's best not to disturb their sense of worth in adhering to the mainstream belief that there can't be bad guys in control over their lives, and in this case the 'anti-doping authorities.'

Move on.

astro wrote:

And ran sub 3:55.

People flame Shelby because of her lame excuses and claims of innocence. But the rest is more ambiguous. She clearly cheated other US athletes out of opportunities. But the sport at the top is such a cesspool that it is dope or go home. In a Diamond League race if you are not doping you will be humiliated.

The delusion in this sport is that without any credibly natural explanation runners from two countries can allegedly naturally outperform everyone else so completely that they might as well have their own separate division. And it is telling that the gap is larger on the women's side where PEDs have a larger effect. Until this sport comes to terms with the reality and braindead racialist explanations are finally jettisoned, it will remain a clown show.

man son wrote:

You don't seem capable of following a logic trail. Rhe thread is about Monson's performance proving that Houlihan was clean. We first have to prove that Monson is clean. Astro is the self proclaimed expert on doping. He stated in this thread that all top runners are dirty. He has states on multiple occasions that Tuohy is a top runner. If Tuohy is dirty, Monson is likely dirty which then does not prove that Houlihan was clean. Seems pretty clear by following the topic if the thread and the expert's opinion. Now do you understand?

Added Perspective wrote:

I believe that Shelby didn’t start doping until after the 2019 world championships when she ran the race of her life and still got crushed. Today’s run by Monson validates my belief. If Monson can run 14:19 while clean, that makes it more likely that Shelby was clean when she ran 14:23.

man son wrote:

He has said it many times. I can post 100 instances where he called her an elite runner. He didn't make a distinction as you falsely claim.

Added Perspective wrote:

I believe that Shelby didn’t start doping until after the 2019 world championships when she ran the race of her life and still got crushed. Today’s run by Monson validates my belief. If Monson can run 14:19 while clean, that makes it more likely that Shelby was clean when she ran 14:23.