He knows it’s a wake up call; that’s why he raced today. Save your angst for another day should he DNF.
Thanks for the thoughts, sincerely. Maybe the tone didn’t come through, but not much angst here. I’m not thinking a wake up call for Rupp, more for us as fans of the sport in general. Just makes me reconsider that Rupp would be a shoe in to make the team for Paris, which prior to this result I would have had him winning the trials.
didnt expect much push back. For a 2:06/59 high guy, barely breaking 65 is a pretty rough result objectively.
I was surprised he didn’t DNF. This is Jim Walmsley territory… but he’s obviously not fully healthy. Same for Molly Huddle. Does anyone know of postrace interviews with those two and how they evaluated their performance?
How did this type of course affect the winning times and hobby joggers PRs?
It was more of the weather and the wind. There was a wind facing the runners today which might have slowed them down. Going up 42nd street there is a long gradual hill as well. It was great seeing Kiplimo and Cheptegei along with the other runners today. Very inspiring day. I'm hoping to run it next year.
Cheptegei peaked in 2020. He’s still a great runner, but on the downslope of his career. Right now he’s 26.5 years old which is past prime age for most distance runners.
For those who have been following him he was already a top runner back in 2016 - that’s 7 years ago.
Kiplimo is probably at or near his peak right now, as is Ingerbritsen so it makes sense that they are beating Chep at this point in his career
Cheptegei I think is stronger on the track and may not be a great marathoner. His finishing speed is very underrated (see 10000 WC final last year) and Kiplimo has yet to beat him on the track let’s not forget. I think he is far from done.
whutwhut wrote: I'm not based in the US, I love watching all the major US HM/Marathons but resent the clue-less news-presenter style coverage most the time with quotes like "god I cant imagine even running 5K"
so I'll start by saying sure, this is better than that, but why tf is Chris Chavez from Citius on there? I listen to his podcast and there's a clear difference between someone who knows the elite's name etc vs someone who actually knows what its like competing at a decent level. According to his Strava he's run 18:25, 39-mid and 1:23. From his own admission on his podcast he's not a very good runner - why is this the best person to help the newscast explain what Kiplimo is feeling like at 10M in? I understand this may come off as unnecessary hate, and I've probably not worded it well, but there are hundreds of people they could get who would be able to give better insights during the race, largely down to the fact that often on the Citius podcast they say things that are just factually wrong. So now to have Chris with his 3:06 Marathon experience, just felt like such low hanging fruit.
Chris Chavez is kind of a mediocre wordsmith, but at least he follows the sport and the criticism of the sport—like he knows we want that 4:19 split. And he can appreciate how smooth Kiplimo looks, while someone at Kiplimo's level might take that for granted.
That's what Carrie's there for—to give the pro perspective. Like when they were commentating on how Teferi was right on Obiri's heels, even with all the road space, Carrie said she doesn't mind that cause at least you know where they are.
This was fun to watch on youtube after the fact. I skipped past the wheelchair parts, but yeah, even while skipping, it was a lot of coverage!
Molly Huddle's baby is a cutie. Big head, big eyes—just the right amount of coverage!
18-high 5k, 39-ish 10k, 1:23 half puts him at sub-3 for 26.2 and 70% or higher AG; he'll win local and regional races in the Midwest with those performances. He's a solid amateur runner but as he said, he knows he's not even sub-elite. Quite a few runners not on LRC would kill for those times as lifetime PRs.
Chavez is good, as is Ali on the Run--she's a 44-ish 10k, 1:36 half female who is a famous race announcer and has made huge running strides herself. She started 15 years ago running with a mid-4s marathon but is now aiming for a 3:3x or so and a BQ. She's also solid in her coverage of the sport and knows it hardcore like us.
Could be worse. The Daily Mail covered the race cause the ex-Good Morning America anchors who are tabloid fodder ran the race. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes. They said the two prepared for the race with a healthy amount of sex action and crossed the finish line together. They said there was no way to tell what time they ran but it was around 10am, so 3 hrs. (It was 1:54 according to the results posted.) Hey, good on them for still enjoying the running. She looked a little overdressed with a puffy jacket.
Daily Mail mentioned Kiplimo and his winning time finishing up after the wheelchairs. NO mention of Obiri or the women's race at all. I don't think they knew there was one. So wheelchairs still got more coverage here (just saying).
They both ran 1:54 each and probably could have run faster in better weather.
I am a big TME critic. However, I am fairly impressed with how their guys did today
Winter ran well, PR'ing on that course Fischer was about 1:30 off his PR
I know the course isnt the fastest, but looking at the other names in the race, did you really think they'd finish anywhere else? I'd say it a fair/solid result, but nothing special
Moronic comment. For someone not running much at all the last two months + a wife battling breast cancer, 1:30 off his PR (from Houston) is a damn good effort.
Lots of PRs out there but the wind on 42nd and the Manhattan Bridge it super crappy if you don’t have people blocking for you.
If you ran a PR on Sunday, you should line up another half as soon as you can.
~650 ft. of elevation gain on a course that runs south to north. 15-20mph headwinds pretty much the whole way. 30 degrees with a lower real feel. Definitely not a fast day for running.
There is no doubt that Kiplimo has now started cementing his dominance. Soon after world cross I observed that perhaps its time for Cheptegei to start moving towards the marathon because Kipchoge will as from Paris 2024 start winding down.Its important to get the transition timing right in athletics. The time for Cheptegei to move is now.Kipchoge got his timing right whereas Bekele,Tedese ,Farah and even Gallen Rupp got their transition timings wrong.They waited too long.
All fair points. My thought was that since he is still only 26 and relatively dominant on the track he should stay there and continue to pick up medals. Kiplimo has clearly shown he is in another class on the roads.