The “just one more trial” is the “wait 2 weeks” of the IVM crowd. Anyone still espousing IVM is so far behind the science it’s not really worth engaging with them.
The “just one more trial” is the “wait 2 weeks” of the IVM crowd. Anyone still espousing IVM is so far behind the science it’s not really worth engaging with them.
Good plan you fleshed out below. I’ll add, ourglobal supply chain is a big issue with Pharma scale up. Scaling up pavloxid to the many ton scale is gonna require insane amounts of fairly specialized raw materials from India and China so I don’t foresee widespread distribution beyond the highest risk cases in the next year :-/. Organic chemistry supply chain durability as a national security issue? I can do without toilet paper but vaccines and drugs are another story.
truthy1 wrote:
Thanks PCRF guy and EPIRunner
The research is complicated and I know how much time it takes to read it and provide a thorough interpretation.
Thanks for putting up with my long winded ranting. I’m not an athlete, but since I’m a track and field fan, this is the only place I can read about the sport. I don’t post on any training or running related threads (I would have no idea what I’m talking about). But I’ll occasionally ramble on the COVID threads.
PCRF-Guy wrote:
truthy1 wrote:
Thanks PCRF guy and EPIRunner
The research is complicated and I know how much time it takes to read it and provide a thorough interpretation.
Thanks for putting up with my long winded ranting. I’m not an athlete, but since I’m a track and field fan, this is the only place I can read about the sport. I don’t post on any training or running related threads (I would have no idea what I’m talking about). But I’ll occasionally ramble on the COVID threads.
It's not rambling. It's education; unfortunately the antivaxxer/covidiot caucus on here is too ignorant or politically dug in to learn or engage honestly.
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ICU empty here. Big nothing.
oh brother. wrote:
146-187K Vaccine deaths between just February-August 2021.
When are we going to stop this madness?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355581860_COVID_vaccination_and_age-stratified_all-cause_mortality_risk
I posted a response to this yesterday that has now been deleted. There was no ad hominem, just facts from our case numbers in NSW Australia.
LRC moderators playing the spin
Mods...can you enlighten on the above please?
I am Sam wrote:
oh brother. wrote:
146-187K Vaccine deaths between just February-August 2021.
When are we going to stop this madness?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355581860_COVID_vaccination_and_age-stratified_all-cause_mortality_riskI posted a response to this yesterday that has now been deleted. There was no ad hominem, just facts from our case numbers in NSW Australia.
LRC moderators playing the spin
This is certainly an awkward study for the Vax-fetishists. I'm not currently "against" this vax, but this may change my mind.
Note - I am anti -Harambe/2600 and other fear mongers that are useful idiots, or active participants, in statists using COVID to gain power in the US & World, and by proxy mandates.
"Biden fixed Covid" - Harambe spring 2021 and continuously thereafter.
Critical care ICU PA in Connecticut. Overflowed with Covid related currently. We don’t have access to ECMO at my hospital but we’ve shipped a couple people over to Yale in the last 2 weeks. The ICU has 18 beds but has over 30 patients currently.
Not looking good in Connecticut.
oh brother. wrote:
146-187K Vaccine deaths between just February-August 2021.
When are we going to stop this madness?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355581860_COVID_vaccination_and_age-stratified_all-cause_mortality_risk
Wow. People will believe whatever nonsense suits their limited view point.
bidenfixedcovid wrote:
I am Sam wrote:
I posted a response to this yesterday that has now been deleted. There was no ad hominem, just facts from our case numbers in NSW Australia.
LRC moderators playing the spin
This is certainly an awkward study for the Vax-fetishists. I'm not currently "against" this vax, but this may change my mind.
Note - I am anti -Harambe/2600 and other fear mongers that are useful idiots, or active participants, in statists using COVID to gain power in the US & World, and by proxy mandates.
"Biden fixed Covid" - Harambe spring 2021 and continuously thereafter.
Here's some more awkward data for the "vax-fetishists":
Cases per 10k, vaccinated: 17.5 (age-standardized)
Cases per 10k, unvaccinated: 72.3
Hospitalizations per 100k, vaccinated: 3.8
Hospitalizations per 100k, unvaccinated: 128.1
Critical care per 100k, vaccinated: 0.9
Critical care per 100k, unvaccinated: 51
All from data over Nov 19/22 - Dec 16
http://www.bccdc.ca/health-professionals/data-reports/covid-19-surveillance-dashboardI am Sam wrote:
oh brother. wrote:
146-187K Vaccine deaths between just February-August 2021.
When are we going to stop this madness?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355581860_COVID_vaccination_and_age-stratified_all-cause_mortality_riskI posted a response to this yesterday that has now been deleted. There was no ad hominem, just facts from our case numbers in NSW Australia.
LRC moderators playing the spin
My post the other day simply was along these lines:
If USA has had 500M vaccination doses of mostly the safest type, and Australia 42M of 50% AZ, the most unsafe, i.e. a 12 times greater amount....how is it that they have had 15,000 times more deaths (165K vs 11) ???
Even if you took every uninvestigated 'possible' death, pre autopsy, i.e. they died of 'something' post vaccination, the ratio is 250
And even if you took each and every adverse reaction complaint post vaccination inc the likes of fevers, then the ratio of US deaths vs Australia complaints is 2 to 1.
So, given that you think the 'research' is unbiased or not a cherry pick, the only logical explanation must surely be that people are either being murdered by poison put in the vaccinations or there is something in your water that is reacting to the vaccine, or something like that.
32 admissions: 29 unvaccinated
12 ICU: 11 unvaccinated
Large teaching hospital
100 total in hospital
41 ICU patients
24 on vent
90-95% unvaccinated in ICU, not sure about non-ICU but it's less than 90%
Here's the answer: they don't. It is false to say that 165,000 Americans have died as a result of receiving the COVID-19 vaccine.
The author of the linked paper is not a virologist or epidemiologist. His field of expertise is Clinical Neurobiology. His paper on this has been rejected by every respected medical journal we have today.
Over 200 million Americans have received the vaccine. I'm sure 165,000 of them have died. But died as the result of an adverse effect of vaccination? No.
Significant regression terms estimate 130K-180K US deaths can be attributed to vaccination between February and August of 2021.
From the article. Where's your evidence this did not occur?
An empty ICU makes no money so it would have to be full of some type of patient, COVID or not. Call BS unless you can offer some explanation.
Also w nursing staffing shortages no way you have staff sitting around in an empty unit.
We’re now up to 120 COVID patients in our hospital, low 40s in ICU, 20 something patients on vents. That is actually low compared to the number of people getting Omicron in the community (very high). Most are getting a milder illness that w Delta. Most severely ill patients are unvaccinated and medically frail.
Any other ICU docs, nurses etc here? What are you seeing?
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