But but big pharma only wants money.
But but I adore capitalism.
But but big pharma only wants money.
But but I adore capitalism.
6857lol wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
You caught me. Putin is personally paying me to undermine those wonderful people who run Big Pharma.
Those wonderful people invented things that either currently are, or will someday keep you alive. Given your evident geezing, I'm going to guess "already are".
No. Employees discovered those things. Along with many things that have killed us.
Big Pharma makes the money.
How old are you? Don't you know how business works?
1 booster every 3 months
and you have to wear 2 masks, 3 if you are indoors.
The end game is to just get the number of cases that need hospitalization low enough to not overwhelm the medical system.
Once covid is endemic cases will come in at a nice steady rate that can be easily handled.
Harambe wrote:
energeticlotuseater wrote:
Right, right.
There’s a vaccine that’s 99.99% effective when it comes to limiting Covid fatalities. This vaccine is available to all who want it, at least in the western world. I recommend everyone get the vaccine but no one should be mandated to get it.
You on the other hand want to restrict freedoms for a virus, that when you take the vaccine, has less than a .01% chance of killing you.
You are a wannabe tyrant. You and your kin must be resisted.
No mandates means we MUST be ok denying the unvaxxed medical care for COVID when hospitals are full. There is no other option if we are going to be ethical. We cannot have innocent Americans murdered at the hands of antivaxxers.
Exactly. A pre-emptive strike would be best. Kill the anti-vaxxers before they murder innocent law abiding fatties.
It is about the crippling DEPENDENCY RATIOS that the developed world face over coming decades.
I predicted a genetically engineered virus to target cohorts, half jokingly, in 2005 and watch with pure horror as it has become a reality. The question was always, how could they do that. The answer is, its not the virus, its the vaccine.
6857lol wrote:
Boston Guy wrote:
We aren't going to vaccinate it out of existence. We sure as hell aren't going to mask it out of existence. So what's the endgame here? Live with futile masks and restrictions forever?
We missed our chance to control it. In part thanks to antivaxxers and the GQP which has, for reasons unclear, gone all in on the antivaxing.
If we do nothing, we'll get what we get, and it won't be pretty. Many, many people are simply not going to "go back to normal" because they posses common sense. Therefore, life as we know it has changed forever.
Wrong.
letssee wrote:
Harambe wrote:
No mandates means we MUST be ok denying the unvaxxed medical care for COVID when hospitals are full. There is no other option if we are going to be ethical. We cannot have innocent Americans murdered at the hands of antivaxxers.
Exactly. A pre-emptive strike would be best. Kill the anti-vaxxers before they murder innocent law abiding fatties.
Suckers falling for divide and conquer by the elites.
You are at as much risk from the vaccinated as the unvaxxed and at more risk from Big Pharma police state.
A just society cannot afford quislings
The Narwhal wrote:
I'm at a lose as to why the government has not devoted more resources to the major supply chain issues surrounding rapid tests. The US would've been out of this by now if: a) rapid tests were available and mandatory for indoor public gatherings (restaurants, concerts, schools, etc.), and b) people properly wore N95 masks at indoor public gatherings. Instead, boatloads of public benefits are going to paying rent for people who are frankly electing to chill at home and binge Neflix, Jerry and Maury all day.
Wearing an N95 at all public gatherings is not an endgame. That’s a cure worse than the disease.
When the world gets on its knees and repents of its sins, maybe God will answer our prayers.
joed|rt wrote:
The above was in response to this:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Most Americans prefer the risk of death from Covid. You will easily reach a million.
You haven't differed with what I said. NZ doesn't have over 3/4 of a million deaths, as you have. And it won't. The country is approaching over 90% vaccination rates.
Harambe wrote:
No mandates means we MUST be ok denying the unvaxxed medical care for COVID when hospitals are full.
YES! I keep saying this: just triage unvaxxed out. We’ll treat you if we aren’t busy, but if we are, you’re on your own. You are free to take your chances without the vax, but be prepared for the consequences.
I don’t see why this is a controversial policy.
One a them joggers wrote:
Hate to be the one to break it to you, but Covid might be a big thing for the rest of your time here on planet Earth. Just being frustrated with it isn't going to make it go away. We don't have some collective "right" to "live normally". It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is.
One thing the Covid pandemic has done is clarify how incapable the human race is of working towards a common goal. It's fascinating, in a depressing way. Imagine if we found out that a giant asteroid was forecast with 99.999% certainty to hit Earth 6 months from now, and the only way to save humanity was for all the nations' top scientists and engineers to work together on a solution, and for the public of each nation to back them. It would turn into a total farce! You'd have so many competing factions, most of them trying to avoid doing anything whatsoever. Reactions will range from "It's God's/Allah's/Shinto's Will", to "how can scientists really know that this probably-flat asteroid is going to collide with out flat disc planet in the future?", to "it's just a ploy for Big Tech to take our money", to "I'm going to do some research on the internet", to "the only thing to stop a bad asteroid is a good guy with a gun", etc.
Huh, it's almost as though the earth is an extremely large place with lots of different interests . . . bringing up this hypothetical to complain about how not everyone wants to just lie down to a technocratic, non-national, non-independent "bureau" which administers every facet of life is not a compelling stance. The idea that there is a such a thing as "the human race" is of scientific/biological interest, but only the most barren and sterile of its members want to live in a world run by engineers, without customs, history or local meaning.
Harambe wrote:
No mandates means we MUST be ok denying the unvaxxed medical care for COVID when hospitals are full.[/quote]
Only if we also deny overweight and obese people. I dont see why we would help them if they could easily eat less which would make them much more healthy and stronger against all illnesses. also runners should not get treatment for injuries related to running as they are themselves bringing injuries onto them. noone is forced to run and increase your health problems.
energeticlotuseater wrote:
Harambe wrote:
No mandates means we MUST be ok denying the unvaxxed medical care for COVID when hospitals are full. There is no other option if we are going to be ethical. We cannot have innocent Americans murdered at the hands of antivaxxers.
Good.
At least we know where the lines are drawn and the hills we are willing to die on now.
Now, what are you going to do?
Favor the side where we don't leave COVID patients to die, no matter how stupid a decision they have made in the past?
At least we agree that we won't abide murderous antivaxxers quietly though -- something must be done. Cheers to that.
nooneisthegoat wrote:
Harambe wrote:
No mandates means we MUST be ok denying the unvaxxed medical care for COVID when hospitals are full.
Only if we also deny overweight and obese people. I dont see why we would help them if they could easily eat less which would make them much more healthy and stronger against all illnesses. also runners should not get treatment for injuries related to running as they are themselves bringing injuries onto them. noone is forced to run and increase your health problems.[/quote]
No, this is a false dichotomy. Never once has there been a surge of obese people taking so many medical resources unexpectedly. It helps that obesity is not wildly contagious like COVID.
If obesity were such an issue that it was filling hospitals and denying care to innocents then sure, take action, but pre-covid this was not an issue. COVID is a new, larger stressor with an easy, safe, and cheap fix.
Vax up or deny dumb people lifesaving care? Why is there a debate?
COVID presents an immenint risk to the bp
Harambe wrote:
At least we agree that we won't abide murderous antivaxxers quietly though -- something must be done. Cheers to that.
This manipulation of other posters' words you do every day is quite telling.
You are really weak. I hope you get the help you need, peewee.
STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""-""""--'-"--^' wrote:
which was purposely created and released from a lab in a communist country,
But don't forget, that it was funded with US money and with a help of american institutions and scientists.
I just think it's crazy how polarizing everything is.
Why TF are vaccines a left vs right issue? If you told me 3 years ago that there would be a worldwide pandemic but we would use state of the art medicine to develop a vaccine in less than 1 year I'd be ecstatic and assume everyone would want it. Look what vaccines did to polio and smallpox, it used to be just the Jenny McCarthy autism idiots against vaccines. Now suddenly it's red vs blue.
Or this Kyle Rittenhouse dude who got chased down and attacked by several people on video. Literally in the courtroom the guy who got shot in the arm admits Rittenhouse didn't fire when his arms were up but then Rittenhouse fired when the guy pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. It's clear as day self defense. And somehow it's a left vs right thing.
I don't get it. What has become of us?
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