BLM promises more looting if racist vaccine requirements continue

But what if it is actually "good for them"?

This is exactly the problem with white America and the vaccine pushers more specifically.

The whites have been conditioned through their historical collective conscience and society that African-Americans simply can’t take care of themselves and need the white man to take care of them. This infantilization of African-Americans, as I said before, was a justification of slavery.

BLM & it’s anti-vaccine mandate stance is a movement to ensure that black bodies are both safe and autonomous from white society. The same white society that has enslaved them for generations.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

not a lib wrote:

But what if it is actually "good for them"?

This is exactly the problem with white America and the vaccine pushers more specifically.

The whites have been conditioned through their historical collective conscience and society that African-Americans simply can’t take care of themselves and need the white man to take care of them. This infantilization of African-Americans, as I said before, was a justification of slavery.

BLM & it’s anti-vaccine mandate stance is a movement to ensure that black bodies are both safe and autonomous from white society. The same white society that has enslaved them for generations.

Would BLM protest if the vaccine was denied to Blacks? That would mean they are truly autonomous from White society. Do they want to be part of the rest of society or separate? Do they want all of the benefits of White society without being subjected to any of the restrictions everyone else has to follow? The vaccine is not just being pushed on Black people. Look at all of the White corporations that are requiring it for their employees.

jecht wrote:

. . . but the TV said so! wrote:

No, the biggest threat is the current communist-crazed administration trying to re-write the bill of rights.

Their supposed supporters have finally had enough of the authoritarian, racist behavior.

I can't wait to see how libs touch this topic. No matter what they do, it will be ripe with hypocrisy . . . like everything they've done regarding the scamdemic.

I actually agree with BLM for once. Even as a POC I thought they were over the top and their founders aren't even African-American (I believe they are two white women).

But in this case, they have legit points on the vaxes from a liberty standpoint. Although I feel vaxes are personally helpful and useful, it is not my right to tell others to get them or not get them.

I too agree with them on this. Good for BLM to take on this issue worthy of protest.

No, part of reclaiming Black bodily autonomy is giving Black men and women the choice of what to do with their bodies- a choice whites have denied them for most of their history in this country.

Again, you are only seeing the vaccine mandates from a white perspective which in itself exposes your white privilege and the white-centric society we live in.

You and your kin (whites) see the government as a friend while African-Americans see it as an oppressor and a historical enemy.

“Do they want all of the benefits of White society without being subjected to any of the restrictions everyone else has to follow?”

I also resent this. You automatically equate “society” with “white society” like if you don’t submit to some concept of “white society” you are automatically excluded from society as a whole .

How about this? You can stay home and be safe from covid or you can enjoy the benefits of Black society where Black Americans reclaim their bodily autonomy as well as participate in society.

There are a lot of Whites that don't view the government as a friend. It's a much of a class issue as a racial one. But if White America is the enemy, why participate at all? Why accept any of the benefits?

not a lib wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

No, part of reclaiming Black bodily autonomy is giving Black men and women the choice of what to do with their bodies- a choice whites have denied them for most of their history in this country.

Again, you are only seeing the vaccine mandates from a white perspective which in itself exposes your white privilege and the white-centric society we live in.

You and your kin (whites) see the government as a friend while African-Americans see it as an oppressor and a historical enemy.

There are a lot of Whites that don't view the government as a friend. It's a much of a class issue as a racial one. But if White America is the enemy, why participate at all? Why accept any of the benefits?

Again you are equating society with whiteness. I don’t equate whiteness with being able to go to restaurants, bars, work, or enter public buildings. If whites are scared to leave their homes with the unvaccinated why participate in Black society and accept its benefits?

DanM wrote:

45tt wrote:

Finally we know what Harambe/2600 bro looks like.

10/10

My wife is in another room asking me why I am laughing so hard.

+1.

Make that 2 wives now asking why we are laughing so hard.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

not a lib wrote:

There are a lot of Whites that don't view the government as a friend. It's a much of a class issue as a racial one. But if White America is the enemy, why participate at all? Why accept any of the benefits?

Again you are equating society with whiteness. I don’t equate whiteness with being able to go to restaurants, bars, work, or enter public buildings. If whites are scared to leave their homes with the unvaccinated why participate in Black society and accept its benefits?

You have equated the government with whiteness - as if the government somehow exists separately from the rest of society.

not a lib wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Again you are equating society with whiteness. I don’t equate whiteness with being able to go to restaurants, bars, work, or enter public buildings. If whites are scared to leave their homes with the unvaccinated why participate in Black society and accept its benefits?

You have equated the government with whiteness - as if the government somehow exists separately from the rest of society.

And you have equated the government with society as of it is somehow the only part of society. African-Americans consider government, especially the mostly white Caucasian federal government, as a peripheral part of their African American community & Black society.

breit leit wrote:

This thread is just right wing dunces blowing their wads thinking that they have liberals in some kind of “gotcha” that doesn’t actually exist and pro-science people just politely explaining that essentially everyone should get the vaccine.

So it’s like many threads around here.

Wrong. It's a thread with several consistently obtuse liberals, like yourself, failing to address the "gotcha" -- i.e., conundrum -- that clearly does exist, and engaging in various dodges solely because they can't bring themselves to violate what sadly has become Liberal Rule No. 1 -- never contradict anything BLM says or does. The "gotcha," ironically, is self-created.

You couldn't even bring yourself to address the only real issue this thread presents: Is BLM correct when it claims that the vaccine requirements (e.g., must show vaccine card to sit inside a restaurant) are a racist tool to keep black people out of various places? I'm betting you won't ever answer that. See Liberal Rule No. 1.

BLM's claims regarding the vaccine requirements are absurd (as well as dangerous). Absolutely absurd. Deep down, in places you are afraid to go, you know they are. And just as with the widespread BLM looting and riots of 2020, the set of facts that sparked the latest claims and behavior is presented fraudulently. Your deeply ingrained biases and desire for virtue signaling will just never allow you to admit that. See Liberal Rule No. 1.

I was wrong to think you were serious. No one would be as dumb as you. You think mandates for whites to save their lives are OK, mandates trying to save black lives is not OK. WOW!!!

I was wrong. You are a troll. No serious person could think such stupid stuff.

Pierre Toussaint wrote:

No, BLM advocates for direct abortion, even "demands" it. Why doesn't dismembering a living human fetus with forceps, dissecting a living human fetus with scalpels or otherwise vivisecting a human fetus qualify as violence to you?

I know you know this, but not everyone considers a fetus a person. And I understand if you don't agree, and certainly I understand the anti-abortion position that follows logically if you think that fetus = person. From that premise yes, absolutely abortion would be murder.

But society on the whole does not equate the two and we both know it. There are many examples where they are given different treatment. Maybe the most glaring one is the Roe vs Wade decision. In 1973 the Supreme Court held that abortions are legal. The Supreme Court would never in a million years hold that murdering a toddler is legal, much less could that decision be made and then it would persist over 50 years while every person on the Supreme Court has been replaced.

So clearly we as a society do not think that fetus should be granted the full rights and protections as a 3-year old child, and that can only be possible if enough people see them as different, pure and simple. You may not see them as different, but you are in the minority.

What exactly are you looking for a liberal to say? It's all common sense.

Do we support the notion that black lives matter? Of course. Do we want to see them commit violence? No. Do we think the vaccination requirements are inherently racist? No. Do we understand their fear of the requirements being misused in a way that hurts black people? Of course, there is plenty of history to support that fear. Do we still wish everyone would get vaccinated anyway? Yes.

What exactly is the gotcha and what are we being obtuse about?

Cog Diss Much? wrote:

breit leit wrote:

This thread is just right wing dunces blowing their wads thinking that they have liberals in some kind of “gotcha” that doesn’t actually exist and pro-science people just politely explaining that essentially everyone should get the vaccine.

So it’s like many threads around here.

Wrong. It's a thread with several consistently obtuse liberals, like yourself, failing to address the "gotcha" -- i.e., conundrum -- that clearly does exist, and engaging in various dodges solely because they can't bring themselves to violate what sadly has become Liberal Rule No. 1 -- never contradict anything BLM says or does.

Stopped here because as I already pointed out - that "gotcha" doesn't actually exist. If you'll take the time to read my short post, you'll see that I said "essentially everyone should get the vaccine".

They'll continue to tell you that your polite, sensible response is obtuse, but you are not alone.

The unique & largely negative African-American experience with the United States government makes government mandates such as Biden’s vaccine mandate problematic and traumatic for the Black community.

All I see in response is a bunch of white people pointing at Black leaders demanding they get vaccinated for a) the safety of fellow whites and b) because Blacks simply don’t know any better.

The white privilege & white entitlement among the pro-vaccine mandate side is honestly breath taking. It’s largely white Liberals who are demanding the African-American community get vaccinated or face being further “otherized” by white America. The whites demand this while knowing the trauma the Black community has incurred by the federal government and simply not caring.

Yes, agreed. White Liberals are the issue. They fought back in the Civil War for the right to whip and sodomize blacks. Why black people vote for them is one of History’s great mysteries. The other one is why Jews vote for them. These are sick violent people and hopefully this issue is the one that pulls the good blacks and whites together to fight these cowards who hide behind fake murderous doctors. They deserve no respect yet blacks and Jews vote for this abuse by them. This will end bad. My prediction.