Sledge_Hammer wrote:
Huge disappointment and proof that he's way overrated. It's fine he lost constantly to Cheruiyot who is the one of the best 1500 runners right now, but this time he even lost to a noname African. I can't see how he's gonna be a factor at the Olympic.
He just ran the 9th fastest 3000m of all time. He's not overrated.
The other guy will also be a big name. He's also an uprising star.
What is highly unlikely? Some of you, and it almost is invariably those with mediocre minds, cannot grasp that some of us do not care if the best runners have our skin color. Why is this so difficult for you?
Funny that you assume I am white. You may be surprised. Actually some of us acknowledge amazing performances. Does your pea brain understand that?
He will hold world records in several distances. Losing to a 7:26 happens once in a lifetime. That is a disappointment? That would be like a high schooler running the mile in 3:55 but losing to another guy who runs 3:54. Gees. 7:27 is disappointing? I hope you don't have a wife and children. Yeah, my son is worth $10B but he is a huge disappointment because there are several Americans worth more.
joggergrandpa wrote:
Funny that you assume I am white. You may be surprised. Actually some of us acknowledge amazing performances. Does your pea brain understand that?
I never said anything about your skin color. You are the one that said I am black.
And where did I say that?
joggergrandpa wrote:
Joggergal wrote:
Well obviously some of you are emotionally involved here. Ask yourselves why you comport yourselves as if you have a horse in the race, based on the color of that horse? The poster Anthos is correct about some worshipping Jakob because he is white. There is no need to denigrate other runners or exaggerate Jakob’s achievements, as they are impressive. However, they have nothing to do with you.
Yeah, no one is really emotionally involved other than the ones that can only hate on that different colored horse. Hehe, so you spout that Jakob doesn't deserve any attention yet we had 4-5 years of someone who achieved far less called Cheserek. YOU and your clan called him KING. How's that for exaggeration? It's all fine but when you do that expect for others with even greater achievements to be called great, superior, amazing, GOAT as well. Where were you to put down all that crazy talk about Cheserek? The KING? The GOAT. I can name a hundred others of your colored horses that you've been calling KING and this and that for no good reason. Expect that to come back to you. That Jakob poster is right. Certain colored horses have been put down for over a decade that I would visit the site while other colored horses have been put on a pedestal and glorified for nothing. You're responsible for any love coming towards a certain colored horse now and for your horses to be ignored. You've made it impossible to be interested in them.
You ask me where you called me black? You said “I can name hindered others of your colored horses...”
You really are not very bright.
econ 111 wrote:
He will hold world records in several distances. Losing to a 7:26 happens once in a lifetime. That is a disappointment? That would be like a high schooler running the mile in 3:55 but losing to another guy who runs 3:54. Gees. 7:27 is disappointing? I hope you don't have a wife and children. Yeah, my son is worth $10B but he is a huge disappointment because there are several Americans worth more.
Lol. Correct. It's just that all the haters went into seizures after realizing Jakob owns 3:28 & 7:27 now. Now that they've mostly come out of it they're busy spewing the hate. Hate, hate, and more hate. Nothing but jealous, envious, bitter hate.
Joggergal wrote:
joggergrandpa wrote:
Yeah, no one is really emotionally involved other than the ones that can only hate on that different colored horse. Hehe, so you spout that Jakob doesn't deserve any attention yet we had 4-5 years of someone who achieved far less called Cheserek. YOU and your clan called him KING. How's that for exaggeration? It's all fine but when you do that expect for others with even greater achievements to be called great, superior, amazing, GOAT as well. Where were you to put down all that crazy talk about Cheserek? The KING? The GOAT. I can name a hundred others of your colored horses that you've been calling KING and this and that for no good reason. Expect that to come back to you. That Jakob poster is right. Certain colored horses have been put down for over a decade that I would visit the site while other colored horses have been put on a pedestal and glorified for nothing. You're responsible for any love coming towards a certain colored horse now and for your horses to be ignored. You've made it impossible to be interested in them.
You ask me where you called me black? You said “I can name hindered others of your colored horses...”
You really are not very bright.
Geez. Are you a 12 year old writing from the looney bin? That definitely meant to you that I was calling you black? Sounds like you need to up the medication there.
Obviously you called me black. What an intellectually dishonest moron you are. I do not care to engage one who is both obtuse and dishonest.
Kicking in a race like this has little to do with top end speed. To challenge Jacob Kiplimo at 3000, Jakob Ingebritson maybe needs more 5000m endurance.
There goes the jobs for all sprint coaches
Track Guy 33 wrote:
There goes the jobs for all sprint coaches
Go ahead and ask Usain Bolt how he got so fast.
Do you think his answer will more likely be:
1. "My coach made me able to run 9.5x."
Or
2. "My parents"
Now, ask his youth coaches. Horrible at practice, practical joker, never serious, never showed up, never practiced preferring to play cricket and soccer instead. Still got to go to youth world's & junior world's breaking records easily....in the 200 .....pretty good at 400 too but no records
Went pro and no coach wanted to coach him at 100 meters. Only Bolt himself wanted to do the 100 while his "coaches" thought he should stick to 200-400 and refused to enter him in 100s.
In 2007 he finally got to run a 100. He ran 10.03 first time ever.
By his fifth 100 ever, he broke the world record with 9.71.
His coach still called him "lazy" for not running 400s anymore! ...2008!
Despite "coach" Bolt broke the WR in 2008 and again in 2009 but never got faster afterwards despite winning practically everything he entered (lost to Gay and Powell, once each)
So.
Bolt discovered his 100 talent on his own, broke a wr five races later without "approval" or training from his "coach"
...Then, once "coach" takes notice of these WRs and Oly wins, decides to "coach" him at 100 meters, but then Bolt never goes faster again.
Gid given talent. That's all.
Hardloper wrote:
Jakob looked more interested in running a fast time than winning, which is perfectly valid. If he really just wanted to win he could have started his kick later and it may have been a different race.
The one with the fastest time wins.
I think it is great,he runs this weekend the 1500 at Norwegian championships his condition to participate is direct qualification .
Source aftenposten.no
His brothers are injured.
My question is , didn't he look a bit grim after the race ?
Do the brothers have an off season ,or period of rest 3 to 4 weeks every year ?
The emulation of training together has maybe the drawback of wanting to come back too quickly when injured.
It was one of the comments of Gjaert, concerning Henrik 1 or two seasons ago.
Source the reality show the Ingebritsen
The progress of Jakob is really amazing, His strength work is evident,
If he stays injury free ,he may develop
A last 10-20 meters speed burst.( for gold winning )
Tactics are impr
His race tactics are
improving.
The beauty of sports is that anything can happen
So Jacob Jakob Tim ,The Australians and others are getting better
Uncertainty is what makes us watch them.
Fasterer wrote:
Track Guy 33 wrote:
There goes the jobs for all sprint coaches
Go ahead and ask Usain Bolt how he got so fast.
Do you think his answer will more likely be:
1. "My coach made me able to run 9.5x."
Or
2. "My parents"
Now, ask his youth coaches. Horrible at practice, practical joker, never serious, never showed up, never practiced preferring to play cricket and soccer instead. Still got to go to youth world's & junior world's breaking records easily....in the 200 .....pretty good at 400 too but no records
Went pro and no coach wanted to coach him at 100 meters. Only Bolt himself wanted to do the 100 while his "coaches" thought he should stick to 200-400 and refused to enter him in 100s.
In 2007 he finally got to run a 100. He ran 10.03 first time ever.
By his fifth 100 ever, he broke the world record with 9.71.
His coach still called him "lazy" for not running 400s anymore! ...2008!
Despite "coach" Bolt broke the WR in 2008 and again in 2009 but never got faster afterwards despite winning practically everything he entered (lost to Gay and Powell, once each)
So.
Bolt discovered his 100 talent on his own, broke a wr five races later without "approval" or training from his "coach"
...Then, once "coach" takes notice of these WRs and Oly wins, decides to "coach" him at 100 meters, but then Bolt never goes faster again.
Gid given talent. That's all.
Talent is one component, Coaching is another.
400 meters
Physiologically , he may have been gifted to blow the event like the 100 and 200 , but in his mind he was a pure sprinter.
Personality is the the third component
rekrunner wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Jakob looked more interested in running a fast time than winning, which is perfectly valid. If he really just wanted to win he could have started his kick later and it may have been a different race.
The one with the fastest time wins.
Bekele could race a 5000m with Usain Bolt, if they go at 9 min/mile pace for 4,800m, and then they start the kick I'd bet my house Usain Bolt would win the 5k.
This is a gross example of what tactical vs time race means.
A less good runner can win if he has a better kick if the race is slow enough so that he's still fresh enough to kick hard.
rekrunner wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Jakob looked more interested in running a fast time than winning, which is perfectly valid. If he really just wanted to win he could have started his kick later and it may have been a different race.
The one with the fastest time wins.
I agree with Hardloper. He led out, and that's a tactical error. He was going for a fast time and that played into Jacob's hands.
escape velocity wrote:
rekrunner wrote:
The one with the fastest time wins.
I agree with Hardloper. He led out, and that's a tactical error. He was going for a fast time and that played into Jacob's hands.
You guys are so funny.
I’m sure Jakob was thinking “who cares if I win, I’m going for a fast time”. Just like all runners do ?
Thinkagain wrote:
rekrunner wrote:
The one with the fastest time wins.
Bekele could race a 5000m with Usain Bolt, if they go at 9 min/mile pace for 4,800m, and then they start the kick I'd bet my house Usain Bolt would win the 5k.
This is a gross example of what tactical vs time race means.
A less good runner can win if he has a better kick if the race is slow enough so that he's still fresh enough to kick hard.
But these would be slow times -- kind of the opposite of being "interested in running a fast time", and for that matter, running a race in 9 min/mile pace for 4800m is the opposite of being "interested in winning".
Also, Bolt will have won, because he ran a faster time.
Bottom line, no one achieved a world record by taking 2nd place.
Rupp announced and achieved his goal of beating the American 10000m record, but was 10 seconds too late.