Robert Brandt ROASTS Tinman and Drew Hunter gets feelings hurt

Heading into that race... seasons bests, not PRs from 4 years ago...

Athletes with IAAF standard (13:22.50): Paul Chelimo (13:05 sb), Ben True (13:09 sb), Kirubel Erassa (13:17 sb), Drew Hunter (13:21 sb), Josef Tessema (13:22 sb), Hassan Mead (13:23 sb), Hillary Bor (13:09 indoors)

Ooooooo scary!

Listen, all I’m saying is this kid had superstar potential up until 2018. Then he stagnated. Then he failed to get the 1500 standard. Then he got 5th in a soft race without Jenkins, hill, and many young guns who will be there in 2021. Then he got injured. He’s still got potential, but it’s not looking how it was supposed to 2-3 years ago.

Did he make the team in 2019?

Was he US #2 in 2018?

Who is Robert Brandt?

I think Drew would do well to eat more, and especially more protein. His vid about how much he ate (very freaking little) was a red flag imo. He probably thinks he’ll gain weight if he eats, when in all likelihood he’d recover better and have a stronger/leaner body composition.

Entertainment????? WTF!!!!

I've never heard of ANY professional runner say "The reason I run is to entertain people". Entertaining people is a byproduct of running FAST and WINNING. People aren't "Entertained" by the guy who is DFL, and safe to say the guy who is DFL isn't trying to entertain you by being DFL. It's a pure unadulterated competition that requires a lot of self-sacrifices and hard work. To set a goal, make a plan, execute the plan, and seek a result. In the process of doing so, you're forced to push yourself outside of your perceived "Comfort Zone" and achieve something that you previously thought you couldn't. This just so happens to be how "Life" works outside running. World -Class runners don't run to entertain.......They run to see how fast and far they can push themselves and hopefully win some races while doing so.

Wake Up Bro!!!

"Go Run One"

If you want to be a professional runner then someone will need to pay you to promote their brand. So being anti-promotion is dumb as hell.

Look fellas, you can't go on social media talking game if you can't take a ribbing.

Brandt comes out with some harmless, friendly banter: Drew responds like Rob just shot his dog. Total baby move.

How can you tough-talk 24/7 if you can't handle a little back at you?

Rob isn't calling himself a better runner than them, he's calling out their attitude and personas. He's calling out how much they hype themselves up and jerk themselves off, despite a lack of real results from 99% of the group.

I mean seriously, everyone knows Parsons going to Germany was a cowardly move.

Tinman coaching is just an overpriced rehash of the Jack Daniels formula.

People want to talk crap about Rob's times here, then fail to realize that a full Tinman squad probably couldn't win NCAA XC as a team, despite being "elite" pros.

Get off the hype train, shut up, and go run. Don't be so sensitive.

Tory Jenkins wrote:

I think that’s his point. He is at a similar level to the Tinman guys but people seem to revere them like they are gods.

Lol at “crush them like tinman foil”

kinda like the Karnazes is the greatest runner folks?... I didn't google the spelling - sorry if I missed it. bro... (seriously though, I'd love to meet that guy and go for a run).

I think he means through media, and how we interact with professional athletes in any sport. Especially in basketball and football, the players express their emotion after scoring and winning. In running however, most people just put their hands up and walk off the track.

I don’t think Tinman Elite are marketing themselves as some super high performance running team that crushes everyone. Their appeal, like another poster said, is that they’re living the life of a professional athlete and producing free content about it. If FloTrack did something similar with any elite group of a week of their lives training, traveling, cooking, and just having fun I think it would have a similar support granted it was free to watch.

And I think TME amateurness isn’t a bad thing. So what they aren’t winning usatf races every season like bowerman, they just aren’t at that level, but their content shows they’re trying. And sure, every runner hoping to get to that level is trying. Their appeal is in the community they have created in younger athletes. I don’t agree with Tom’s philosophy, and honestly, Drew is the only one that is really at that elite~ish level. But that’s shouldn’t take away from their showcasing what they’re doing every now and then. Their openness is what makes them unique, and some people understandably don’t like that

I never heard of Robert Brandt before. Randomly taking potshots at pros is the most noteworthy thing he’s ever done. That’s the power of Tinman - they made him more famous than his running ever has.

smhjjjj wrote:

idk why it bothers so many people when tinman elite runners do it. If anything, they're better at it than most pros.

Yeah, they're building a brand and doing it decently well. I kind of enjoy (some of) their videos. If nothing else it let's the average guy see what an elite (or near elite or whatever word you want to use) runner does all day.

Give them a few years to build the dynasty... What did Brooks Beasts look like in the early years of their existence (with probably a heck of a lot more money behind them)? Heck, we still have trouble getting Americans at the top of non-sprint international events.

People complain about guys like Tinman for being too open about everything but then get pissed at rupp for not being available to the media often. Can’t have it both ways.

Just wondering, if not for Tinman Elite or Nick Symonds, which runner in the USA right now has anything interesting going on? Problem with many of y’all is that you want running to be more popular but there is nobody to make it popular. The high school guys are more interesting than anybody.

I have. The dude is a beast and makes every race he’s in exciting. 4 x All American. If I’m not mistaken...that’s more than any Tinman.

your parents wrote:

I never heard of Robert Brandt before. Randomly taking potshots at pros is the most noteworthy thing he’s ever done. That’s the power of Tinman - they made him more famous than his running ever has.

I think you greatly overestimate the popularity of Tinman...

Amory wrote:

your parents wrote:

I never heard of Robert Brandt before. Randomly taking potshots at pros is the most noteworthy thing he’s ever done. That’s the power of Tinman - they made him more famous than his running ever has.

I think you greatly overestimate the popularity of Tinman...

What does that say about the popularity of this other nobody? How would staying off social media help their popularity?

COVID-69 wrote:

People complain about guys like Tinman for being too open about everything but then get pissed at rupp for not being available to the media often. Can’t have it both ways.

I think it's mostly because most of the Tinman guys are incredibly annoying and cringey (in my opinion of course). I'd love to watch the same content that Tinman puts out, except with people that I actually find interesting.

It's not the type of content. It's the people themselves. I literally can't make it through a single Tinman video.

Huh? I'm not saying that Brandt is popular at all. If Brant is a 1/10 in terms of popularity, Tinman is like a 3/10. It's really not that big of a deal.

Brandt is obviously popular enough to get a forum post about him dumping on Tinman. If I were to do the same on Strava literally nobody would care.

Very true. Drew's acting like a total baby over a harmless jab. Kinda lame