Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Trump's wealth is not what he says. There are public records and very respected financial groups saying he is worth $3.2 billion. Do you not understand this?

Agip - LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You just outdid yourself. That crap you posted has the most pathetic partisan hacks you will everfind! LOL. Maya Wiley LOL. Chris Hayes - LOL. Andrew Weismann - LOL. I really can't believe you would post that stuff from the most partisan hacks ever in the MSNBC ranks- AGip- you can do better. Please do better. That was embarrassing.

I stated that it is an opinion piece.

The only person who doesn't understand anything about Donald Trump is you.

jaysus there is a glitch in the lrc matrix. I was replying to sally's statement that I was citing an opinion piece.

Cassidy Hutchenson testified under oath that Mark Meadows. (Trump COS) would casually burn documents in the fireplace while having small talk with Scott Perry about election fraud.

Normal stuff right?

But her emails...Amirite?

No. These are arguments you'd make about a President who maybe did shady and/or not atrocious things around the margins. And, more depressingly, arguments you'd make if you had a citizenry that was honest and principled enough to hold clearly-criminal elected officials responsible at the ballot box. We clearly don't have that.

Donald Trump made detecting his criminality REALLY, REALLY easy ("Just find me 11K votes," etc., etc.). And roughly one half of the country WON'T hold him accountable for it.

First off, holding him accountable (for significant illegality) is simply the right thing to do in a supposed nation of laws. Perhaps more importantly, if you don't, you almost certainly will get more of it in the future. It's 100% guaranteed from him - on steroids - if he wins again. And he's NOT the only bad person who will learn useful lessons from Trump having gotten away with things.

I was a member of Richard Nixon's first class of Presidential Scholars. Spiro Agnew, the VP, subbed for RMN, who was out of town, so I ended up shaking Spiro's hand. And I have a picture of it.

But that's it.

needs repeating for some.

Fair points.

The dilemma is how to get (back?) to a "citizenry that is honest and principled enough to hold clearly-criminal elected officials responsible at the ballot box". Without that, there is no democracy to save.

What, THIS is what Trump was crowing about? Wow, some "win."

apnews.com

Jan. 6 panel drops Trump subpoena as it wraps up work

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House Jan. 6 committee has dropped its subpoena against former President Donald Trump as it wraps up work and prepares to dissolve next week.

Link:apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-polit...

Well, they released Trump's taxes. Looks like he lost money 4 or 5 of the last 6 years.

He also showed $0 charitable contributions. I thought he was donating his presidential salary to charity?

Gosh. President Trump might have lied about that.

Shocker.

But, in fairness, there appears to be considerable evidence that he *did* donate something like $400k+ per annum, at least in some years.

factcheck.afp.com

Trump tax report does not prove he retained presidential salary

@afpfactuel

After Congress released details on Donald Trump's taxes in December 2022, Democratic activists and groups claimed on social media that the report indicated the former US president did not donate his salary as he had promised....

Link:factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.33682XG

Perhaps that’s the $64,000 question. And yes, I have no clue.

It’s really hard to imagine R voters acting that way anytime in the foreseeable future. If they’ve seen what they’ve seen for the last ~6 years and haven’t yet seen the light, impossible to imagine what might do that. EXCEPT, perhaps - as many have suggested/hoped, I believe - LOSING. If full-on Trumper candidates can’t win, one would presume the Rs would get smart enough not to nominate them. After all of the losses of ‘22, perhaps ‘24 will tell us a lot of in that respect?

But geez, as much as I hope for that, how relatively unsatisfying that is. As in, “Roughly 40% of your fellow citizens would PREFER an autocrat (or someone still pretty horrid short of that), but…will reluctantly support someone less extreme because they basically have to if they want their tribe represented.“

And even if that more optimistic outcome comes to pass, there’s still the question of just how far down the Trumper spectrum you’d need to be? DeSantis may not be Trump, but this middle-aged guy who spent most of his pre-Trump years rooting for the Rs would view a future full of DeSantis douchbags Rs with great, great disgust. They make someone as relatively unimpressive as GW Bush look damn near awesome.

I'm paying my estimated taxes today and very very angry at Trump for lying to escape paying taxes his whole life. Such an un-American selfish criminal b/stard.

Its pretty clear why some Republicans, such as Trump, fight so hard to reduce IRS funding so that they can not enforce tax laws.

Just a president of the United States threatening the GA Secretary of State if he didn’t ‘find’ 11,000 votes for trump.
raffensberger testified under oath that he interpreted trump to be threatening him with m’aga violence.
I’d be surprised at this point if trump weren’t indicted in joja

law and order conservatives!

In sworn testimony to J6 Committee, Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger states he considered Trump to be making a threat of physical violence (via Trump followers) if he did not "find the 11,780 votes."