Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

danube steak wrote:

agip wrote:

I’d refine that just a tiny bit - but essentially agree.

They love trump because he fights against the elites who make the magas feel humiliated. They love that sense of fighting, not taking any crp, that kind of thing. They see regular Repubs as sickeningly weak. They want a strong man.

It sure isn’t policy, no. The trump policy is just to help the elites get even more elite.

agip - give it a rest. We conservatives despise Trump. We despise people like Biden and Harris and Bernie even more. We want a government that is not a socialist one. Just give it a rest, agip.

We heard the same argument from German conservatives in early 1930s.

agip wrote:

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

Trumpers don't love Trump because of his policies.

They "love" him because of his indecency, belligerency, and vulgairy.

They "love" him because he is hated by people they hate.

Haley can act like that. She is a woman of color.

Only a white man could get away with what he does, and Trumpers love that.

I’d refine that just a tiny bit - but essentially agree.

They love trump because he fights against the elites who make the magas feel humiliated. They love that sense of fighting, not taking any crp, that kind of thing. They see regular Repubs as sickeningly weak. They want a strong man.

It sure isn’t policy, no. The trump policy is just to help the elites get even more elite.

Do elites actually have anything to do with the MAGAs? Trump's rally shtick that him being richer then the elites meant that they weren't really elites and the real elites were the members of his audience was really bizarre.

Agip, would you vote for Trump in a primary?

SDSU Aztec wrote:

agip wrote:

I’d refine that just a tiny bit - but essentially agree.

They love trump because he fights against the elites who make the magas feel humiliated. They love that sense of fighting, not taking any crp, that kind of thing. They see regular Repubs as sickeningly weak. They want a strong man.

It sure isn’t policy, no. The trump policy is just to help the elites get even more elite.

Do elites actually have anything to do with the MAGAs? Trump's rally shtick that him being richer then the elites meant that they weren't really elites and the real elites were the members of his audience was really bizarre.

Agip, would you vote for Trump in a primary?

I don't understand your question.

Would I vote for Trump in a primary???

Would I vote to degrade American democracy and vote to help the worst president of modern times RETURN to the WH?

Not sure what you are getting at, but no, I would not vote for Trump in a primary. I wouldn't let him alone in my apartment with the silver.

agip wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Do elites actually have anything to do with the MAGAs? Trump's rally shtick that him being richer then the elites meant that they weren't really elites and the real elites were the members of his audience was really bizarre.

Agip, would you vote for Trump in a primary?

I don't understand your question.

Would I vote for Trump in a primary???

Would I vote to degrade American democracy and vote to help the worst president of modern times RETURN to the WH?

Not sure what you are getting at, but no, I would not vote for Trump in a primary. I wouldn't let him alone in my apartment with the silver.

OK. I don't have that much familiarity with your posting history and misjudged your political positions.

The Clown Show wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

I will admit that I'm a little surprised that he still has the level of appeal that he does,

Never underestimate the stupidity of those who only vote along party lines.

I have now began to see a re-emergence of Trump flags and banners in my city. It's as if the handful of failures and general mediocrity of Biden somehow mean Trump isn't still the worst President in American history.

Look at all the dumb taking place on this message board. The flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers are all over the place. These are the clowns who wouldn't think twice about voting for Trump.

"It's as if the handful of failures and general mediocrity of Biden somehow mean Trump isn't still the worst President in American history."

This sums up my frustration with the idiots pretty well. A proud dismissal of the concept of "relativity."

And it's even worse than the quote presents, because he's not "just" the worst president in history. Pre-Trump, one could be at the bottom of that (fully subjective, of course) list and still not be within a light year as bad as Trump. Now, it's, "Hey, of course I don't want the mediocre politician from the other party, I want the AUTOCRAT from my party !!"

Which, interestingly, brings me to my disagreement with the first sentence of the post. I'm a life-long conservative who believes that people ABSOLUTELY OUGHT to vote along party lines as long as the R party is what it. Indeed, I'd go as far to say that voting for Rs at this point is downright un-patriotic. How can one justify supporting a party that chooses an unrepentant election stealer as their leader?

If I have to put up with some liberal policies that irritate me for the foreseeable future, that is a price that I will GLADLY pay to keep the party that wants to destroy the U.S. as we know it from power. I just wish that a HELL of a lot more conservatives and moderates would PLEASE look at it this way.

danube steak wrote:

agip wrote:

I’d refine that just a tiny bit - but essentially agree.

They love trump because he fights against the elites who make the magas feel humiliated. They love that sense of fighting, not taking any crp, that kind of thing. They see regular Repubs as sickeningly weak. They want a strong man.

It sure isn’t policy, no. The trump policy is just to help the elites get even more elite.

agip - give it a rest. We conservatives despise Trump. We despise people like Biden and Harris and Bernie even more. We want a government that is not a socialist one. Just give it a rest, agip.

Geez, where does one start?

You're probably not really a conservative, and regardless, you certainly don't speak for very many of them.

The idea that one would despise moderate Democrat Joe Biden (and/or Harris) as much as the autocrat Donald Trump is absolutely absurd. You've bought into the ridiculous propaganda that if you have "D" after you name - or indeed, maybe JUST aren't supportive of Trump - that you're some crazy leftist. AND that crazy leftists are, OF COURSE, worse than autocrats. Just stupid.

But EVEN IF every D was a crazy leftist, and people like Bernie got their way, how would that bad compare to Trump bad? One would mean higher taxes, more handouts, and a few other annoying things for the average true conservative (and these policies could mostly or entirely be rolled back when Ds lost power). The alternative is an autocrat and a party fine with autocrats, who would FUNDAMENTALLY destroy the U.S. as we know it. And the damage would very likely NOT be readily repaired if/when Ds came back to power.

It's not complicated, id****.

agip wrote:

and geez - I wrote this a year ago and it's still completely correct. I nailed it.

"we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

Trump has shown over 40 years that he is able to stay relevant.

Not in my lifetime has a politician so completely connected with his fans on a deep emotional level.

Not in my lifetime has a group of voters so utterly loathed the other and wanted a leader to focus that hate.

To me, this adds up to a long-term connection to Trump, and probably he will run again in 2024, if he loses.

but it sounds like we won't agree on this."

Slow down, it’s 2021.

You haven’t nailed anything yet.

Still no interest in the Trump platform financing? The SPAC stock price has gone berserk, up to $170 at one point and at $100 currently. For the time being, it's an investment in nothing, so I believe the increases in value are being driven by speculators trying to make a quick buck on the reaction to the announcement of the platform and that it will eventually go 1929. The stock is redeemable but only at the IPO price of $10 a share. At that price for 3.2M shares, the IPO raised $320M for the partnership with Trump.

The Clown Show wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

I will admit that I'm a little surprised that he still has the level of appeal that he does,

Never underestimate the stupidity of those who only vote along party lines.

I have now began to see a re-emergence of Trump flags and banners in my city. It's as if the handful of failures and general mediocrity of Biden somehow mean Trump isn't still the worst President in American history.

Look at all the dumb taking place on this message board. The flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers are all over the place. These are the clowns who wouldn't think twice about voting for Trump.

It's not a party line thing though...there are others in the party. Typically (and I do now and always have realized Trump and his frock aren't typical) when there is such a national beating as was placed upon Trump, it's over immediately. I accounted for his uniqueness though...BUT, even so, the hangers on are lasting a little longer than I would have guessed. YET ANOTHER BUT...2024 is a long way away, and my prediction remains that he will never win another election the rest of his miserable life.

Gina. .. wrote:

agip wrote:

and geez - I wrote this a year ago and it's still completely correct. I nailed it.

"we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

Trump has shown over 40 years that he is able to stay relevant.

Not in my lifetime has a politician so completely connected with his fans on a deep emotional level.

Not in my lifetime has a group of voters so utterly loathed the other and wanted a leader to focus that hate.

To me, this adds up to a long-term connection to Trump, and probably he will run again in 2024, if he loses.

but it sounds like we won't agree on this."

Slow down, it’s 2021.

You haven’t nailed anything yet.

Yeah...agip...you are a good dude and poster, but you haven't nailed anything yet. Biden has barely been in office 9 months. Already arguments can be made that he's lost a good portion of his followers. Technically, many have died from COVID and other things. SOME have said they felt he let them down by not making his return to the White House happen. Yes there are nuts out there who still support him, and yes some of them are vocal, but the fervor is over.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Still no interest in the Trump platform financing? The SPAC stock price has gone berserk, up to $170 at one point and at $100 currently. For the time being, it's an investment in nothing, so I believe the increases in value are being driven by speculators trying to make a quick buck on the reaction to the announcement of the platform and that it will eventually go 1929. The stock is redeemable but only at the IPO price of $10 a share. At that price for 3.2M shares, the IPO raised $320M for the partnership with Trump.

I think you're right- it's all speculators who want to get in on the grift. I don't see any reason to think that it will be profitable in the long term.

Hey Flagpole. Here in the Sacramento area, 5 inches of rain is predicated for tomorrow. What's the story for your neck of the woods?

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Hey Flagpole. Here in the Sacramento area, 5 inches of rain is predicated for tomorrow. What's the story for your neck of the woods?

93% chance of rain amounting to half and inch.

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cowboys-trump-founder-turns-trump-152600788.html

Many Democrats want Trump to be held accountable for 1/6, but this guy is criticizing Trump for something that wasn't under Trump's control.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cowboys-trump-founder-turns-trump-152600788.html

Many Democrats want Trump to be held accountable for 1/6, but this guy is criticizing Trump for something that wasn't under Trump's control.

cowboy dude wanted a pardon. There were two weeks between the insurrection and when Trump left office.

plenty of time for pardons. Trump did not deliver pardons.

so yeah this was under trump's control.

I'm sure trump now wishes he had issued a blanket pardon for all those involved, as was done for Vietnam draft dodgers. But he didn't. Cowboy dude is despondent.

But this guy is learning what just about everyone learns...DO NOT DEPEND ON DJT FOR ANYTHING YOU NEED.

"Crime pays if you can secure a pardon."

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/disgraced-trump-crony-paul-manafort-203944314.html