A number of posts have clearly answered your questions. I don't think you really want to understand. You purposely ignore information that you do not like.
You need to change your handle.
A number of posts have clearly answered your questions. I don't think you really want to understand. You purposely ignore information that you do not like.
You need to change your handle.
What Republicans think. wrote:
Help me to understand? wrote:
Nope. Could you just answer my questions?
A number of posts have clearly answered your questions. I don't think you really want to understand. You purposely ignore information that you do not like.
You need to change your handle.
No, none of the prior posts have answered my questions. I do want to understand why so many people can't handle reality? What have I ignored?
You were right to challenge me on some of that. I did possibly get some of the facts wrong. I posted much to quickly without making sure and I apologize.
De-icing wind turbines can be done, but I couldn't find that it actually happened in Texas. I shouldn't have assumed that.
I could not find proof that wind was back online quickly. Earlier reports I saw of Texas windmill de-icing turned out to be bogus. So maybe de-icing happened for some subset of turbines and maybe it didn't. But I can't verify it.
It is unlikely that any of the solar panels had accumulated 8" of heavy snow. Snow does melt very quickly off solar panels. But if you want to see examples of it being removed manually, there are plenty of web sites and videos for that.
Because solar panels melt snow quickly, they were obviously back on line quicker than the fossil fuel plants. But I can't verify what happened with the wind power.
My main conclusion stands, which is that if Texas was part of the national grid and subject to national grid standards this disaster would have never happened.
And I'll also add that a national grid made up of 100% solar, wind, and batteries would be much cheaper and more resilient than the fossil fuel mess we have today.
I responded in bold above.
As somebody pointed out months ago, repeating questions that have been solidly answered is part of Sally's shtick. And of course "Help me" is one of Sally's alts. I reproduce below the post from "Ivyguy" that appeared a page or two back. It incidentally provides the info re wind-generation-during-the-crisis that FH lacked.
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We have many wind turbine here in Indiana, just southeast of Chicago. They don't seem to freeze up. We have plenty of ice and snow.
Snow will melt off my black driveway when it is 0F -- as long as the sun is out.
Nice to see Violin Vix reeling and stumbling again. ?That simp got a first hand taste of GOP incompetence and corruption in his trumper run state and wants to blame anyone but the obvious people. All I can say is keep them delicious tears flowing?? you little trump loving cretin ???????
DeTron Lames wrote:
We have many wind turbine here in Indiana, just southeast of Chicago. They don't seem to freeze up. We have plenty of ice and snow.
Snow will melt off my black driveway when it is 0F -- as long as the sun is out.
VV is getting owned as usual... but but but green energy! ? Something tells me there is a massive concentration of idiots down in TX. Trump lovers to the bone. Thoughts and prayers ????
Yes, snow does melt off solar panels when it is 30 degrees out. Solar panels are pointed directly at the sun and they get warm. And as I said, there are many simple methods for removing snow from solar panels. Besides blowing and brushing, water also does the trick.
You are wrong to point at the cost for de-icing wind turbines and removal of snow from solar panels. Electricity prices skyrocketed during the crisis. It was well worth the cost to get wind and solar back on line. And because it was so easy to fix relative to fossil fuel plants, I'm confident that the owners of wind and solar spared no expense to get back online as quickly as possible and cash in.
You ask why being connected to that national grid would make a difference. There are two main reasons:
1) If Texas was connected to the national grid then they would be subject to national regulations that require winterization. So we would not have had so many plant failures in the first place.
2) If Texas was connected to the national grid then they would have been able to import power from out of state sources that were still operating.
As for replacing all fossil fuels with wind, solar, and batteries, the answer is yes I do know how much it would require. Many studies have been done on this and it is quite feasible given the continuing decline in cost, especially of solar and battery storage.
The time to rebuild and replace all fossil fuels would be roughly ten years and it would cost less than 1% of GDP. The benefits of such a system would be enormous. The system would lead to a plummeting cost of electricity and would provide a huge excess of power most days of the year. This would be an incredible benefit to our economy and make America into the worldwide leader in manufacturing once again. Plus there would be plenty of cheap electricity to run our homes and our cars, saving every American family thousands of dollars each year.
Sally Vix wrote:
L L wrote:
If Biden is right about that projection will you call him a hero?
I will kneel and bow at his presence. You really think 100 million Americans will get the vaccine in 3 months. Really?
From Dec 29 (page 5860) ^
34 days in - 44 million people vaccinated.
Sally is going to be a Biden worshiper pretty soon.
Sally Vix wrote:
Joe biden is promising 100 million vaccines in his first 100 days. Is he going to be a chronic liar like his predecessor? I am fed up with the president lying to us. Do you Libs agree that he is a bald-faced liar?
DeTron Lames wrote:
We have many wind turbine here in Indiana, just southeast of Chicago. They don't seem to freeze up. We have plenty of ice and snow.
Snow will melt off my black driveway when it is 0F -- as long as the sun is out.
Not 8", not even 2" . If it is that cold and the black is covered by white NO melting will occur at that temperature. You need to follow the science!
Help me to understand? wrote:
DeTron Lames wrote:
We have many wind turbine here in Indiana, just southeast of Chicago. They don't seem to freeze up. We have plenty of ice and snow.
Snow will melt off my black driveway when it is 0F -- as long as the sun is out.
Not 8", not even 2" . If it is that cold and the black is covered by white NO melting will occur at that temperature. You need to follow the science!
The solar panels were never covered in 8" of snow. Even if they were, it doesn't take much melting from direct sunlight to get a layer of water to melt down and form on the slick angled surface of the panels. Then the snow slides right off.
Also, if even a tiny corner of the panel is exposed to sunlight, the entire panel heats up, which expedites the process.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsolarips.com%2F2020%2F01%2Fsolar-panels-and-snow-everything-you-need-to-know%2F&psig=AOvVaw05RYN7DjEUH14macSySlkP&ust=1614276336702000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCIC5jOKNg-8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAIFat hurts wrote:
Help me to understand? wrote:
Not 8", not even 2" . If it is that cold and the black is covered by white NO melting will occur at that temperature. You need to follow the science!
The solar panels were never covered in 8" of snow. Even if they were, it doesn't take much melting from direct sunlight to get a layer of water to melt down and form on the slick angled surface of the panels. Then the snow slides right off.
Also, if even a tiny corner of the panel is exposed to sunlight, the entire panel heats up, which expedites the process.
Help me to understand? wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
The solar panels were never covered in 8" of snow. Even if they were, it doesn't take much melting from direct sunlight to get a layer of water to melt down and form on the slick angled surface of the panels. Then the snow slides right off.
Also, if even a tiny corner of the panel is exposed to sunlight, the entire panel heats up, which expedites the process.
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Sure, cleaning snow off driveways and walkways is a problem that has never been solved. Correct, Sally?
https://youtu.be/sSMQwRPKzl0?t=25HI SALLY!!! wrote:
Help me to understand? wrote:
https www google com
Sure, cleaning snow off driveways and walkways is a problem that has never been solved. Correct, Sally?
https://youtu.be/sSMQwRPKzl0?t=25
Yes! If that had to be done for thousands of panels in a solar garden the cost to pay for the snow removal would exceed the power gained...it's simple economics.
Help me to understand? wrote:
Yes! If that had to be done for thousands of panels in a solar garden the cost to pay for the snow removal would exceed the power gained...it's simple economics.
As compared to the expense of clearing thousands of square miles of roads, driveways, and walkways?
HI SALLY!!! wrote:
Help me to understand? wrote:
Yes! If that had to be done for thousands of panels in a solar garden the cost to pay for the snow removal would exceed the power gained...it's simple economics.
As compared to the expense of clearing thousands of square miles of roads, driveways, and walkways?
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Help me to understand? wrote:
HI SALLY!!! wrote:
Sure, cleaning snow off driveways and walkways is a problem that has never been solved. Correct, Sally?
https://youtu.be/sSMQwRPKzl0?t=25Yes! If that had to be done for thousands of panels in a solar garden the cost to pay for the snow removal would exceed the power gained...it's simple economics.
This is of course, false. The price of electricity spiked more than 10,000%. It was well worth it to clean snow off the panels....it's simple economics.
Also, your last response to me was a link and nothing else. I never read a link in that situation. If you can't put it in your own words then you don't know what you are talking about.