Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

All good points.

But usually these things are done by the members of your own party. I'm glad that 11 Republicans voted "yea". I think that's more than most people thought and it at least gives it some bipartisan credibility.

Fat hurts wrote:

I am Sam wrote:

Why?

It sets a precedent that the majority party can just start punishing the minority party and take away their ability to participate in the process.

I get it that this is an extraordinary situation, but it's a slippery slope.

I agree. How does the House establish the criteria for deciding just how crazy a person can be before action is justified?

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

It sets a precedent that the majority party can just start punishing the minority party and take away their ability to participate in the process.

I get it that this is an extraordinary situation, but it's a slippery slope.

I agree. How does the House establish the criteria for deciding just how crazy a person can be before action is justified?

i'm sure you saw it but they went through with it: "The House votes to strip Marjorie Taylor Greene of her committee assignments."

seattle prattle wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

I agree. How does the House establish the criteria for deciding just how crazy a person can be before action is justified?

i'm sure you saw it but they went through with it: "The House votes to strip Marjorie Taylor Greene of her committee assignments."

Yeah, but it was a mostly partisan vote. Maybe if the Republicans take back the House, they can go after Ocasio-Cortez or someone else from the Squad..

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

It sets a precedent that the majority party can just start punishing the minority party and take away their ability to participate in the process.

I get it that this is an extraordinary situation, but it's a slippery slope.

I agree. How does the House establish the criteria for deciding just how crazy a person can be before action is justified?

Disagree.

The inability to establish bullet proof criteria to handle all situations should not paralyze the House. The Dems cannot continue to allow themselves to be held hostage to "but what will the GOP do in retaliation?" Further, the GOP has clearly established that they will do ANYTHING to grab and hold power. It doesn't make any difference if there is some precedent for their actions - they will take the actions regardless.

Agip did a good job of laying out why this action by the Dems makes sense. To think that something more than supporting the assassination of Dems is required for action is crazy. And the fact that it does not immediately strike everyone as such leads me to believe that Trump has been terrifyingly successful in moving the bar until nothing seems to warrant counter-action now.

"I could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose any voters." Indeed, he has moved even seemingly sensible people to no longer think action is warranted to any violent, seditious craziness.

Also good points.

It was a tough vote.

1101, I agree that Trump and Greene have set the bar for craziness above anything seen before !!

All, I appreciate this civil and nuanced discussion but think it might have been better to have had it in the current president's thread...

The gist of it.

Greene supported assassinations of representatives.

That has to be across a line.

But the awful Rs will equate it with socialism or whatnot and kick out leftists.

https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1357460171241500673?s=21

kibitzer wrote:

All, I appreciate this civil and nuanced discussion but think it might have been better to have had it in the current president's thread...

If they really believed someone else was the current president, they would.

I'm not defending her, but it ended up being a mostly partisan vote. The bigger question to me is how the F was she ever elected in first place?

Bad Wigins wrote:

kibitzer wrote:

All, I appreciate this civil and nuanced discussion but think it might have been better to have had it in the current president's thread...

If they really believed someone else was the current president, they would.

Look it’s the eternally butt hurt one again. How’s your headache going loser?

Ran in a gerrymandered GA district unchallenged, that’s how. The Dem had to drop out due to family issues. I think this supports Dem action to punish her and that the GOP was happily letting a freshman walk on dictate party direction is nuts, but not surprising. Dems are creating wedges between Rs right now, just wait until the trial and then trump slowly getting a voice again. Key for the Dems throughout this presidential term is to make sure the GOP suffers for continuing to back trump. They have to let the GOP fight and put their thumb on the scale every now and then to ensure they continue fighting... gas light the hell out of them.

Dems supported the Lincoln Project and now are openly praising Liz. McConnell also won with his criticism of MTG. The GOP has to watch in agony and confusion as the Dems troll them. It will be fun to see the GOP walk on egg shells as 2022 election nears. Will we see more MTG type trumpers openly spewing lies or will we just see a GOP no longer willing to invite the crazies but still refusing to publicly reject them? Endless popcorn.

So Trollminator suggested Dems supported The Lincoln Projected .... Has any Dem here or anywhere else condemned John Weaver's behavior? The allegations against him go back 30-plus years. He allegedly offered employment opportunities to you men - one was only 14 - for sexual favors. Yet I never see you guys criticising your own ilk. That is not how you guys roll. You will be on here for days ripping, e.g., the lady Congresswoman, for days and days but I NEVER see you ripping one of your own. Nope. You all don't roll like that.

So in the GOP civil war between the trumpers and the RINOs that started on Jan 6, the RINOs have surprisingly won the first 2 battles:

- Liz Cheney's standing in the GOP - RINOs win in secret ballot voting. It was a long one at 4 hours and she failed in getting a recorded vote but still a good win

- Removal of Marjorie Trailer Greene (Q-GA 14th D) from committees - RINOs were losing this battle as Leader McQarthy refused to reprimand her and instead was allowing her to take over party direction. Not to worry, Dems joined the battle to hand the trumpers a defeat. We can call this a RINO technical victory.

- Preview of next battle - impeachment trial - although the RINOs have already thrown this fight, they are clearly split from the trumpers and there will be no united defense of trump. Some will scream election fraud and some will just remain silent as Dems display trump's carnage.

- possible future battle to watch: emergence of the Patriot Party

Btw - it is brilliant to watch MTG become the AOC of the right. I don't mean that in the sense of extremism since of course there is zero comparison between an aspiring socialist and a walk-on Q-anon conspiracy theorist supporting insurrection and the assassination of elected officials. I mean it in the sense that the right had turned AOC into a public symbol of the ultimate threat to the white patriarchy. Somehow they have managed to turn MTG into a much worse and more powerful threat to the country. Brilliant.

Calamity Joe wrote:

So Trollminator suggested Dems supported The Lincoln Projected .... Has any Dem here or anywhere else condemned John Weaver's behavior? The allegations against him go back 30-plus years. He allegedly offered employment opportunities to you men - one was only 14 - for sexual favors. Yet I never see you guys criticising your own ilk. That is not how you guys roll. You will be on here for days ripping, e.g., the lady Congresswoman, for days and days but I NEVER see you ripping one of your own. Nope. You all don't roll like that.

Hey look it's the other trump loving sore loser! Back for more Groundhog Day? Bahahaha!

Get back to us when you've condemned your orange god for the sexual assault (actual crimes) allegations against him or for drinking aborted fetus goo.

Re how Dems handle their own - see Al Franken and learn something FOX never told you

Are you telling me other Lincoln Project higher-ups might also be involved in these allegations of pedophilia? Like Rick Wilson and Steve Schmidt? So, a major reason Biden won was because of a _______ (what is the term for a group of pedophiles- a bevy? A flock? A gaggle?) Pedophiles-?

Are you telling me other Lincoln Project higher-ups might also be involved in these allegations of pedophilia? Like Rick Wilson and Steve Schmidt? So, a major reason Biden won was because of a _______ (what is the term for a group of pedophiles- a bevy? A flock? A gaggle?) Pedophiles-?[/quote

Bad Wiggins has a good point. Why are you Dems/Libs still on this thread instead of the Biden thread? Trump left office like EONS ago but you troubadors are still on this thread. I will tell you why. Because Biden as president bores you BUT the real reason is you guys are obsessed ANDY I DO MEAN OBSESSED, with trashing Trump and everything Republican. That is all you guys want to talk about ...though Fat Hurts will insist we are months away from having robotaxis travelling 300 mph on our roads. Just a little observation from yours truly. Now, please resume endless trashing of Trump/Repubs ....

This is what I have been saying for a while now ...

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-impeachment-trial-unconstitutional-jason-miller