Trollminator wrote:
Dr. Racket wrote:
Stakes are higher in the Sentate.
Higher in the sense that it was easy for the House R members to put on a show about how impeachment was improper because they had no chance of ever winning the vote to begin with. This is a lot more real though. I can imagine the threat of a Patriot Party (don't make me fvcking barf) is unsettling and they can basically put a nail in that dumb coffin right now.
Unless someone in the Senate wants to try to be the next Trump. A lot of people suspect Hawley is putting on a show to channel that retard energy for 2024. I have no idea why he thinks that will work, but the desire is there.
I think this vote will be the ultimate "show your cards" moment. You're gonna find out exactly who's in this game for themselves, or for the money and power, and who's in it because they believe in values and a better America.
Sadly it will be that ALL of them except for Romney are in it for money and power. The others who vote to convict will do it only because there is a serious concern they won’t be re elected otherwise.
I'm with Racket on this one. The stakes couldn't be higher on this vote. There aren't many R senators who want to see the Patriot party get started. If they don't put a stop to Trump then the R vote will split and they will lose their next election to a Democrat.
Then there are those R's who will probably retire and don't plan to run again. There are those whose next election is four or six years away. And lastly, there are those R's who "believe in values and a better America." Like Racket, I think some of those do exist.
And I still say the facts will matter a lot. Damning testimony could shock the public. And public opinion always matters to politicians.
So if I had to put odds on it, I'd say it's 50/50 for a conviction.