Double Whammy? Hadd do you know what he is taking about

[quote]Antonio Cabral wrote:

Peter

I´m not Balance, but before Balance good advise what you read this artcle ?

ááEvery Athlete is Unique

By: Michele Ferrari

Published: 26 Mar 2004

http://www.53x12.com/do/show?page=article&id=41

Yes very interesting, this guy knows a lot of good things for performance. look at it:

http://www.loopdiloop.com/folderol/2004/10/cycling-michele-ferrari-guilty-of.asp

For more informations, you can ask a guy named Lance Armstrong

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Very interesting thread! Has been inactive for a while, but are really interesting these days when we see this record-rush in the olympic swimming events.

I have a question: "balance" says that Olbrecht recommends training at an intensity under 80% of Vo2 max for increasing aerobic capacity. But intervals below 80% of Vo2 max is little used (you do continuous runs instead). According to Olbrecht (see:

), long interval sessions is an effective way of increasing aerobic capacity (long or short intervals). It seems to me that this is LT-training as Marius Bakken bescribes it. (that he did a lot of and the east africans are doing frequently during base training). Bakken also points out that this type of training must be done right below your LT, which means 2.5-2.8mmol for most people (ie 80-85% of Vo2 max). This is not hard aerobic work as a 25 minutes at 4mmol would be. Canova seems to use this LT/AT/"aerobic support" training alot with his 5k-Marathon athletes. Im I right about Olbrecht vs Canova vs Bakken?

Very interesting thread! Has been inactive for a while, but are really interesting these days when we see this record-rush in the olympic swimming events.

I have a question: "balance" says that Olbrecht recommends training at an intensity under 80% of Vo2 max for increasing aerobic capacity. But intervals below 80% of Vo2 max is little used (you do continuous runs instead). According to Olbrecht (see:

), long interval sessions is an effective way of increasing aerobic capacity (long or short intervals). It seems to me that this is LT-training as Marius Bakken bescribes it. (that he did a lot of and the east africans are doing frequently during base training). Bakken also points out that this type of training must be done right below your LT, which means 2.5-2.8mmol for most people (ie 80-85% of Vo2 max). This is not hard aerobic work as a 25 minutes at 4mmol would be. Canova seems to use this LT/AT/"aerobic support" training alot with his 5k-Marathon athletes. Im I right about Olbrecht vs Canova vs Bakken?

I know this thread is old.

I was looking over some Renato stuff. He wrote that 5 days before the Athens Olympic marathon, Baldini did the test with the repeat 2000s as fast as 5:50 with lactate 2.3, then did a 1200 in 3:12 with lactate 9.8 and of course won the marathon.

I don't know if balance still posts here. balance was saying (third paragraph) that a marathoner should have a max lactate of only 5 on the 600 meter sprint test. I'm guessing Baldini could get at least 9.8 and maybe higher on the 600 if he made 9.8 in a 1200.

Comments?

SlowFatMaster wrote:

I know this thread is old.

I was looking over some Renato stuff. He wrote that 5 days before the Athens Olympic marathon, Baldini did the test with the repeat 2000s as fast as 5:50 with lactate 2.3, then did a 1200 in 3:12 with lactate 9.8 and of course won the marathon.

I don't know if balance still posts here. balance was saying (third paragraph) that a marathoner should have a max lactate of only 5 on the 600 meter sprint test. I'm guessing Baldini could get at least 9.8 and maybe higher on the 600 if he made 9.8 in a 1200.

Comments?

Hi SlowFatMaster,

I am still around. I happened to come across this old thread again and see your question about Baldin's high lactate reading in the 1200. Wow! this thread is old.

My thought on the matter is that his anaerobic capacity was too high at that point, and that maybe the reason he was able to perform so well in the marathon 5 days later is because that training session was basically a high volume aerobic power workout. That type type of training session would be the kind of thing someone would want to do if your anaerobic capacity was higher than desired. It would lower the anaerobic capacity and shift the lactate curve. Was it by luck or design that the sessions was performed that close to the marathon? That is how I interpret it anyway.

so how would you recommend building anaerobic capacity before easy runs? I know you said 6 repetitions, but at how many seconds?

Sure you did. Just like you ran 3'39" for 1500m ...