Two people existed before the guy was conceived. Calculate the odds that his parents would conceive a baby who would be born on the exact second that he was born. It is much less likley than the odds that he calculated for Houlihan. It is alwasy fun to use people's own logic against their argument.
She cannot come clean without the risk of taking others down with her, ie, other American all time greats.
Exactly. People like Matt Centro and Pascal Dobert. The running world knows the truth and what happened. We also know why certain people left the group when they found out what happened. It’s like Hollywood, No one wants to be the rat.
She is guilty and everyone knows it. Covering for her is a joke and insulting to the system and clean athletes.
she's arguing in the comments section of her latest Strava post. Seems to be getting really angry and defensive when asked about the supplements and vitaims she used to take
she's arguing in the comments section of her latest Strava post. Seems to be getting really angry and defensive when asked about the supplements and vitaims she used to take
I can't stand the whole "tainted supplements" argument people try to make. Here's a list of tainted supplements:
It's none of the ones any serious athlete has any business taking unless they're looking to intentionally break the rules. Me? I take protein from the grocery store and order some beta alanine from GNC and I've done the same for creatine. Simple stuff, no worries here, even if I was rigorously tested.
What are the kind of things you have to worry about. Well, looking at that list, it's supplements like:
- JetFuel Premium Cutting and Hardening Compound
- Cannibal Ferox
- Black Label GFC 200 Growth Factor Complex
These aren't things that a normal, honest, and smart athlete picks up off the shelf and thinks, "Yep, this is the thing I should take!"
I still think all of Bowerman was given some sort of 'supplement' and they got her levels wrong. So she doesn't think anything happened, but she got too much of the wrong thing.
Not so different from NOP being given 'supplements' to get their various levels as high as they can legally get.
I still think all of Bowerman was given some sort of 'supplement' and they got her levels wrong. So she doesn't think anything happened, but she got too much of the wrong thing.
Not so different from NOP being given 'supplements' to get their various levels as high as they can legally get.
Agreed this is what I think too
You can think what you want but this was three people. Pascal , Matt and Shelby. They should all be punished. Only one got caught.
If you want to know the details and truth ask Gwen Jorgensen. She knows the details and split because she found out what they did. There is a reason Gwen can’t stand Pascal
she's arguing in the comments section of her latest Strava post. Seems to be getting really angry and defensive when asked about the supplements and vitaims she used to take
she's arguing in the comments section of her latest Strava post. Seems to be getting really angry and defensive when asked about the supplements and vitaims she used to take
Just keep poking the wasp's nest, Hoolivan...
Food-van meat-products aside, look it up...Shelby's PB at 1500 is faster than Tatyana Kazankina's world record while winning the 1980 Olympic Gold. ... red-flag ? ...or just better shoes/tracks and offal these days...?
You can think what you want but this was three people. Pascal , Matt and Shelby. They should all be punished. Only one got caught.
If you want to know the details and truth ask Gwen Jorgensen. She knows the details and split because she found out what they did. There is a reason Gwen can’t stand Pascal
You can think what you want but this was three people. Pascal , Matt and Shelby. They should all be punished. Only one got caught.
If you want to know the details and truth ask Gwen Jorgensen. She knows the details and split because she found out what they did. There is a reason Gwen can’t stand Pascal
who is pascal?
Blaise Pascal was a French mathematician and writer.
You can think what you want but this was three people. Pascal , Matt and Shelby. They should all be punished. Only one got caught.
If you want to know the details and truth ask Gwen Jorgensen. She knows the details and split because she found out what they did. There is a reason Gwen can’t stand Pascal
who is pascal?
Pascal Dobert. He was a strength coach at BTC and know works with Puma. He’s one of those behind the scene guys you need to be careful about. He has a bad reputation and known to have involved in the wrong way.
Pascal Dobert. He was a strength coach at BTC and know works with Puma. He’s one of those behind the scene guys you need to be careful about. He has a bad reputation and known to have involved in the wrong way.
Puma has the oddest group of people involved as a whole. Someone at Puma got suckered
You can think what you want but this was three people. Pascal , Matt and Shelby. They should all be punished. Only one got caught.
If you want to know the details and truth ask Gwen Jorgensen. She knows the details and split because she found out what they did. There is a reason Gwen can’t stand Pascal
I've been following the shelby story somewhat closely and it's been 3 years but I never had ever heard about Pascal being an issue until this thread. It's kind of fascinating.
You can think what you want but this was three people. Pascal , Matt and Shelby. They should all be punished. Only one got caught.
If you want to know the details and truth ask Gwen Jorgensen. She knows the details and split because she found out what they did. There is a reason Gwen can’t stand Pascal
I've been following the shelby story somewhat closely and it's been 3 years but I never had ever heard about Pascal being an issue until this thread. It's kind of fascinating.
If I were a female runner and found a food van with a choice of offal's, I am sure I would choose puma offal, over pig offal. Especially if the offal included testicular-offal. - and then just hope I wasn't tested soon after or certainly not before I'd been to the smallest room. . Actually, I suppose a cunning athlete living on the edge, should drop everything as soon as they have just BEEN drug-tested - and hoof it to the nearest food-van to grab several burritos, with double-offal. Maybe a side of crispy bacon, with sweet & sour testicular dip. One thing that's easy to forget about Bowerman and Shelby is that they have the unfair advantage of easy access to fresh Oregon Tree-Puma. My understanding is that the food-van chefs actually hire Bowerman high-jumpers and long-jumpers to harvest Tree-Pumas at dawn. So it's a symbiotic relationship and is part of the circle of life. (unless you are a dead tree-puma in a burrito).
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