Now, in the interests of accuracy, I have to point out that I was actually wrong. I said I won $2,000 for 8th place (Anne Myers was my maiden name) and 7th place was $1,000 more, but apparently I actually won $3,000 for 8th (and 7th place was $1,000 more).
The original point of my story stands: I did not find the possibility of earning an extra $1,000 highly motivating at the 25 mile-ish point of a marathon, even when I felt I was running OK.
Money shouldn’t be necessary for motivation to catch someone ahead of you. All that’s needed is competitive fire. Evidently you have none.
Actually you are way out of line here. Extrinsic rewards often spur us on. Welcome to reality kid.
Now, in the interests of accuracy, I have to point out that I was actually wrong. I said I won $2,000 for 8th place (Anne Myers was my maiden name) and 7th place was $1,000 more, but apparently I actually won $3,000 for 8th (and 7th place was $1,000 more).
The original point of my story stands: I did not find the possibility of earning an extra $1,000 highly motivating at the 25 mile-ish point of a marathon, even when I felt I was running OK.
Money shouldn’t be necessary for motivation to catch someone ahead of you. All that’s needed is competitive fire. Evidently you have none.
I do believe that is correct. I was very good at training and racing consistently but I always lost the close races. Thank goodness I didn't have to make a living as a runner.
I don’t understand why my posts about competitive fire have been downvoted so much. Isn’t the point of racing to win, and if you can’t win, beat as many people as you can? If someone is not going to give it their all to place as highly as they possibly can, then why bother racing?
I believe generically fit people do sufferfest 50 mile days without run/hike training fairly often. So I think most people here could suffer through at least 50 miles as long as they approached nutrition shoes, socks, and chafing properly.
Money shouldn’t be necessary for motivation to catch someone ahead of you. All that’s needed is competitive fire. Evidently you have none.
I do believe that is correct. I was very good at training and racing consistently but I always lost the close races. Thank goodness I didn't have to make a living as a runner.
Per the results someone linked above, you were close to 2 minutes back at the finish. One would need more than "competitive fire" to close that kind of gap in a mile and change. A bicycle might have done it. :)
I know this board has been infiltrated by hobby joggers who never ran competitive track or cross country, but I’m still shocked by the negative reaction to the notion that competitive fire is all that’s needed for the motivation to try to beat other runners in a race. Did you people not ever race your friends for the fun of it when you were kids?
I know this board has been infiltrated by hobby joggers who never ran competitive track or cross country, but I’m still shocked by the negative reaction to the notion that competitive fire is all that’s needed for the motivation to try to beat other runners in a race. Did you people not ever race your friends for the fun of it when you were kids?
Yeah there is competitive fire and then there is money too. It is “hobby joggers” like you who apparently weren’t able to get prize money. You are also making too much of this. Toward the end of a marathon a runner may think of things to motivate them. The fire can burn out after mile 23 or so. Please don’t be so naive.
I’ve won prize money and gift certificates for shoes in my younger days, and these days I almost always place top 3 in my age group, but extrinsic rewards were NEVER a motivation. My motivation has always been beating as many people as I can in as fast a time as possible.
I think participation medal culture has harmed society.
I’ve won prize money and gift certificates for shoes in my younger days, and these days I almost always place top 3 in my age group, but extrinsic rewards were NEVER a motivation. My motivation has always been beating as many people as I can in as fast a time as possible.
I think participation medal culture has harmed society.
Well I can respect that but competitive fire can burn out, especially if it was intense. I burned somewhat brightly when young but I cannot relate to those who remain competitive as they get older. Money is just one factor. I remember during my first collegiate 10000m race I was doing well but thinking about dinner at a certain restaurant the last few laps. So the other runner thought about money but racing a marathon is really hard and so people can think of almost anything to motivate them toward the end.