Hicham El Guerrouj and Said Aouita were of an ancient era. The Morocco of 1990 where El G was inculcated and inaugurated isn't the Morocco of 2010, 2020 or 2024!
I’ve always wondered what would happen if doping control came to you while you were out for a long run: You set your overnight address to your home and start running (outside of the 1h-window). Shortly after departing, Anti doping rings at your door. They try to call you repeatedly. You didn’t bring your phone on the run. 2h later you come back. The Doping control has already left, assuming you made a filling error. What happens now?
Call the tester when you see the missed call/VM and let them know you were running and provide proof you are actually at the location you listed as your overnight address. Tester will either come back to test you that evening or the next day. They wont file it if you reach back out to them.
If you dont reply back to them etc then yes it would be filed as a filing error.
You know even though this statement comes off a little raw and discriminatory I think in the context of distance running - no they can't. Not when your country has a history of institutionalized doping in these events for the best part of 30 years now. I've personally heard too many stories, seen enough guys get caught, seen enough "rags to riches" performance leaps from Spanish distance runners over the years to trust any performances from athletes that come from that country. And hey, now we have another piece of evidence to add to the list.
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You know even though this statement comes off a little raw and discriminatory I think in the context of distance running - no they can't. Not when your country has a history of institutionalized doping in these events for the best part of 30 years now. I've personally heard too many stories, seen enough guys get caught, seen enough "rags to riches" performance leaps from Spanish distance runners over the years to trust any performances from athletes that come from that country. And hey, now we have another piece of evidence to add to the list.
Sorry, you should rather reconsider your lying to me that you don't make obscene and vulgar posts almost consecutively in space and time with your rekrunner posts!!! You should also reconsider that my 'feeling-based' approach can be superior in space and time, side by side with 'objective' approach also in space and time since the cruz of existence and consciousness isn't about feelings or about objective facts but about TIMING, AND, SPACING of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I repeat again you pervert: consciousness is not about feelings nor facts per se, or subjectivity or objectivity per se, but about the TIMING OF THE OBJECTIVITY OR SUBJECTIVITY, and, THE SPACING OF THE SAME!!!!
It's about the SUSCEPTIBILTIY OF SPACE, AND, SUSCEPTIBILITY OF TIME!!!
Hence if feelings are the more susceptible one in space and time, that's the one you go with and believe in and vice versa!!!!
As you have requested, I have reconsidered and still find you are wrong to conclude I am lying to you, and/or making obscene and vulgar posts, based solely on such a feeble alleged observation of coincidence in timing.
You understand the value of one single example to disprove something. This example here is sufficient to disprove any suggestion that your subjectivity, lacking objectivity, is superior.
Sorry, you should rather reconsider your lying to me that you don't make obscene and vulgar posts almost consecutively in space and time with your rekrunner posts!!! You should also reconsider that my 'feeling-based' approach can be superior in space and time, side by side with 'objective' approach also in space and time since the cruz of existence and consciousness isn't about feelings or about objective facts but about TIMING, AND, SPACING of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I repeat again you pervert: consciousness is not about feelings nor facts per se, or subjectivity or objectivity per se, but about the TIMING OF THE OBJECTIVITY OR SUBJECTIVITY, and, THE SPACING OF THE SAME!!!!
It's about the SUSCEPTIBILTIY OF SPACE, AND, SUSCEPTIBILITY OF TIME!!!
Hence if feelings are the more susceptible one in space and time, that's the one you go with and believe in and vice versa!!!!
As you have requested, I have reconsidered and still find you are wrong to conclude I am lying to you, and/or making obscene and vulgar posts, based solely on such a feeble alleged observation of coincidence in timing.
You understand the value of one single example to disprove something. This example here is sufficient to disprove any suggestion that your subjectivity, lacking objectivity, is superior.
Look that's the problem with you, you always think you are in the right when actually I'm always the one rather in the right because the manner in which I speak, argue, advocate is METAPHSICALLY, INDEED SPIRITUALLY, INDEED MORALLY APOLOGETIC while yours is only OBJECTIVELY ASSUMED hence inferior!!!
The metaphysical realm underpins and establishes the objective realm, not the other way round, so your counter-argument here that objectivity, lacking metaphysicality/subjectivity is superior has been disproven!!! Can God be proven?? The answer is no but everybody can still attribute God to be real, so once again your claim that objectivity is a kind of 'god' is again disproven!!!
My observation of you for the past 3 weeks in your replies is that you tend to avoid discussions or give concrete non-ambiguous opinions about moral issues, and whenever you seem to do so, your opinions about moral issues were highly conflicting in space-time as to be ambiguous and two-faced! So this is why your behavior best fits with a liar and Lucifer!!!!
I'm not the only 1 apparently, since I'm new to LRC, I have discovered along the way that there are many others on LRC who find your behavior disingenuous and two-faced as well. So it's not only me, it's a whole group of people on LRC!!!
These threads inevitably get rekrunnered (ruined) but I have to say that if it's going to get rekrunnered anyway, I'd rather it be khamis vs. rekrunner than anything I've seen in the past. Khamis, you are OK in my book, keep doing what you're doing!
As you have requested, I have reconsidered and still find you are wrong to conclude I am lying to you, and/or making obscene and vulgar posts, based solely on such a feeble alleged observation of coincidence in timing.
You understand the value of one single example to disprove something. This example here is sufficient to disprove any suggestion that your subjectivity, lacking objectivity, is superior.
Stay cool , rekrunner -think you eventually will get some support from LetsRun adm/mods. Keep up the good work!
These threads inevitably get rekrunnered (ruined) but I have to say that if it's going to get rekrunnered anyway, I'd rather it be khamis vs. rekrunner than anything I've seen in the past. Khamis, you are OK in my book, keep doing what you're doing!
Thank you sir, I preferred you used your real name so that I know who has got my back! Although I don't comment for the likes or the love of people, I appreciate those who support me along the way because it shows that at least people favor faith and integrity of SPIRIT/SOUL/HEART over words/letters/semantics or so called 'objectivity'!!!
Those who ever had a real relationship with their mothers and fathers, or wives and husbands know that faith and trust, and not 'objective facts', are what holds a relationship together!!! Clearly, rekrunner has never experienced a REAL RELATIONSHIP IN HIS LIFE by the way he clings to the letter rather than the spirit of the law/rule or by the way he limits the subjective interpretation of objective facts very narrowly!!!
As you have requested, I have reconsidered and still find you are wrong to conclude I am lying to you, and/or making obscene and vulgar posts, based solely on such a feeble alleged observation of coincidence in timing.
You understand the value of one single example to disprove something. This example here is sufficient to disprove any suggestion that your subjectivity, lacking objectivity, is superior.
Stay cool , rekrunner -think you eventually will get some support from LetsRun adm/mods. Keep up the good work!
You're both freekin idiots. Flucking grow up.
Anyway: The one-hour window is when you have to be there. Unless they're glowing red hot, the dopers hope the tester comes at the beginning of their window, then they let them ring the doorbell for 50 minutes while they flush. Or they hide and take the missed test.
Your don't wait for the 3rd miss to dispute the missed test, you have a time period for each test. Those that truly messed up and are clean, usually don't worry about one miss. They might dispute it because they don't want a tainted history. Those that have misses as a part of their doping plan are usually too dumb to dispute, not realizing they're being targeted.
It's very easy to change your whereabouts, y'all just pick up your phone and hit a few buttons. Can be done with one hand tied behind your back. It doesn't require an email. If your app isn't working, then you send the email to AIU, not ADAMS. If you send to ADAMS, it auto-replies that you need to send it to AIU.
Most normal people have the window in the early morning when you're sleeping or just getting up. Who the F does it at 9:00 pm??, or 5:00 when your might be Christmas shopping or hitting up you some Popeyes?
There is no out of window, out of competition testing (with exceptions, like French law that allows late night testing, but thats during the TdF, so In Competition).
I actually think this guy might be so stupid he can't remember he's a professional athlete and part of that is the whereabouts. There are thousands of athletes that are required to do it, and have no problem. He's probably also on the Junk, so now he can pay the price. After you're busted, you're still in the pool, so... Good luck with that.
Yes I agree with you. My RF-sensing capabilities has allowed me to be very suspicious of the behavior of moderators with respect to rekrunner and his blasphemous pseudo-nym 'Jebus Christ'!!!!
Some of the most profane and vulgar comments about my private parts from 'Jebus Christ' (faithfully rekrunner I mean) were never deleted by moderators in comparison to my innocuous cries and pleas for help to protect me from their profane and vulgar comments.
I'm literally quite shocked at the double standards of moderators on LRC!!!!!!
I need to apply to be the moderator myself because in that way my moral judgement will be truly infallible or otherwise you know that????
As you have requested, I have reconsidered and still find you are wrong to conclude I am lying to you, and/or making obscene and vulgar posts, based solely on such a feeble alleged observation of coincidence in timing.
You understand the value of one single example to disprove something. This example here is sufficient to disprove any suggestion that your subjectivity, lacking objectivity, is superior.
Look that's the problem with you, you always think you are in the right when actually I'm always the one rather in the right because the manner in which I speak, argue, advocate is METAPHSICALLY, INDEED SPIRITUALLY, INDEED MORALLY APOLOGETIC while yours is only OBJECTIVELY ASSUMED hence inferior!!!
The metaphysical realm underpins and establishes the objective realm, not the other way round, so your counter-argument here that objectivity, lacking metaphysicality/subjectivity is superior has been disproven!!! Can God be proven?? The answer is no but everybody can still attribute God to be real, so once again your claim that objectivity is a kind of 'god' is again disproven!!!
My observation of you for the past 3 weeks in your replies is that you tend to avoid discussions or give concrete non-ambiguous opinions about moral issues, and whenever you seem to do so, your opinions about moral issues were highly conflicting in space-time as to be ambiguous and two-faced! So this is why your behavior best fits with a liar and Lucifer!!!!
I'm not the only 1 apparently, since I'm new to LRC, I have discovered along the way that there are many others on LRC who find your behavior disingenuous and two-faced as well. So it's not only me, it's a whole group of people on LRC!!!
What I know is that you are wrong when accusing me of posting vulgar and obscene posts under another handle and then lying about it. I didn't realize any of these threads were about moral issues that I was expected to weigh in on. In my opinion, your baseless and misguided accusations are highly immoral and unethical. I didn't argue that objectivity was superior, but that your subjectivity is inferior because it has led you to conclusions I know to be false.
Asking whether it can be proven God exists seems highly off-topic. But surely an omniscient God knows the truth, and wouldn't approve of your false and baseless and immoral and unethical accusations. But before I can be involved in any such discussion of any such proof, we would need to establish a common comprehensive understanding of what "God" is and what "exists" means. In my limited understanding, what "God" is seems to be a function of the people you ask, and something that evolves over time. For example, just compare the Christian God of the Old Testament to the New Testament.
As compelling as I find the "appeal to popularity" fallacy to be, I suspect some posters here do not appreciate that I tend to completely strip their posts of all their subjectivity, looking only for objective facts, evidence, and controlled observations, interpreted in context, that I may have missed.
As you have repeatedly argued for yourself, it is the combination of subjectivity and objectivity that is most superior, and I have an ample supply of my own subjectivity.
Agreed sir. Mo Katir is proven doper despite all the contraindications assumed by the hypocritical and fake-minded rekrunner!!
Given WADA's broad definition of "Doping", I cannot really dispute "proven doper" without a "casual obsever wannabe" scolding me to read the rules and use the right terms.
In all of these threads, I think I never disputed Katir's "doping", i.e. his three whereabouts failures and the resulting violation and the resulting 2-year ban.
I find your baseless and misguided accusations of contraindications and hypocrisy and fake-mindedness immoral and unethical. You should aspire to keep the high moral ground. God is watching you.
Full AIU Report Here:https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/downloads/pdfs/disciplinary-process/en/AIU-23-427-Katir-Decision.pdfOfficial Press Release From AIU: ...
Im not particularly an expert on doping issues, but between April and October there were other controls in which Katir was found at his declared address? Do there need to be 3 consecutive failures or are there 3 failures in total to suspend the athlete?
There it says that the top Spanish athletes had an average of 4.14 ooc tests before Eugene 2022. IIRC that was in the 10 months before Eugene, so a bit less than once every other month. To miss 3 in 8 months is really brutal, if the average Spanish star gets 4.14 / 10 * 8 = 3.31 ooc tests in 8 months. Add all his lies (thanks Von Trips), and the conclusion is clear. Total kaputt.
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