I believe her. I know that many people are gross and creepy, so this doesn't sound "unbelievable" at all.
I also have a question, is there a difference between "assaulting" and "molesting" these days? This sounds like he molested her? Isn't an "assault" an attack? Or am I just out of date and we us "assault" for everything? I genuinely don't know the current terminology.
I ran more than a minute faster than her not that it matters but people seem to use that as a bar to discredit people her.
Her story is not believable. She is strong and outspoken. Yet this happened twice and only twice over a period of many years while her husband was also coached by him? If true, why would he wait years to do it a second time? Why didn't she tell her husband? She essentially lied to her husband for many years but we are suppossed to believe that she is now truthful with us.
Yes, absolutely. When you're sexually assaulted by someone who literally controls your career, it's your fault for not putting everything you've worked for in jeopardy.
Allegations such as this are equally hard to prove true for an accuser as to prove false for those accused. Therefore, we're often left with nothing but allegations and no one gets their day in court. Therefore, nothing ever gets resolved. We're left having to choose who we believe, based on the character and track record of those involved and who is most persuasive.
In my opinion, it's obvious who wins the character and track-record battle, and who appears more believable, between these two. But that alone proves nothing.
One of the best paid coaches in the world, coaching the best funded running group in the world, was massaging athletes... of course this guy is a sexual predator. It's textbook stuff.
Would literally pay money to read all the "This post was removed" comments. No doubt all are true and/or hilarious.
Whatever you gotta do to sell books, girl.
At this point, I truly believe that people who react like this are people who want to take advantage of women themselves.
what other motive would you have to degrading credible people who allege abuse? make sure you cast them as attention seekers. Make Them the problem so no one looks at your actions.
does kara need attention? Nope. She was one of the best runners in the us who now has a job as an announcer. when she became a whistleblower she LOST opportunities and her image took a hit.
why on earth would she share such difficult moments, moments that are humiliating to her, if she is lying?
Is the part in bold all you got for why she couldn’t be lying? We’ve given you a number of financial and social cachet reasons for what a “brave woman” might stand to gain from it.
Why is it even “humiliating to her”? You are not blaming the victim, are you? Anyone who openly says they’ve been digitally penetrated is brave, remember?
On the flip side, if he did in fact assault her, Kara needs to prove this, not just put it in a book and go on national television accusing him. Maybe she is ramping up for a major lawsuit against Alberto and Nike. I can't see why she would divulge this information without moving forward with a lawsuit, unless she can't prove the assaults and just wants to make his life a living hell.
At this point, there is no reason not to believe her. I just question the timing of exposing this and what is the end game.
How would she prove it? That's what makes sexual assault cases so hard. Often times, it's she said, he said.
In general, we live in a coutnry where you are presumed innocent until proven guilty. He was found guilty by SafeSport but some think SafeSport goes too far.
These threads as a result are impossible to moderate as victim blaming and not giving the accused their rights are in direct opposition to each other. Please try to remember you are talking about real people who very likelyi will read what you read. Please do not name call and please do not state your beliefs as fact as only two people know the facts. Try to provide explanations for any arguments you are making.
I don't see how people can watch this video and think she is a liar.
If you were personally friends with her (assuming you have female friends) and knew some sleazy guy at your work who was accused of feeling up athletes when he gave massages, who would you believe?
What kind of person thinks she is "trying to game us" in this post race interview? She is speaking from the heart if you listen to her voice...
The fact that the allegations are covered in a published book and backed up in a televised media tour (and probably more coverage to come) tells me that there is truth here. No publisher is going to put such a volume out without very thorough vetting and fact checking. If these allegations and statements are lies, then Salazar's lawyers will have multiple lawsuits filed by this time tomorrow morning.
Probably, but you don't know that for sure, only 2 people do. I say that for a couple reasons, none that any of you will believe, but I'll say them anyways.
First, if, that's if it happened, most women would have immediately told their spouses, immediately---and some would have went right to the police. Kara didn't do that, why?
If I were Adam Goucher or Adam Smith, and someone did that to my wife (which you know she told him), I'd have gotten in my car and headed to wherever Alberto was without hesitation.
Have you ever been accused of something that you didn't do? I have and I ended up proving that it was 100% fabricated via witnesses and a polygraph. The person who made the accusation got in big trouble and fessed up when things got heated as she didn't realize the lengths I would go to for the truth. Now, her word on anything is mud.
Alberto may be innocent as Kara Goucher "may" be a vindictive person when things didn't go her way due to her running stalling out (she didn't break 2:20 or get Paula's record as she said she was going after).
Or, he may be guilty, but you truly can't convict him without reasonable doubt unless there's some kind of history or pattern. I'm not saying Kara Goucher is lying, I'm saying that she may be and she clearly likes talking to the camera and being heard. If it actually happened, then she could have REALLY helped herself by going to the police right then. Alberto would have been immediately interviewed by the police and if he were to lawyer up, well then...
The trolls will rip my post and that's fine...but they read it and like it or not, it's in their heads.
On the flip side, if he did in fact assault her, Kara needs to prove this, not just put it in a book and go on national television accusing him. Maybe she is ramping up for a major lawsuit against Alberto and Nike. I can't see why she would divulge this information without moving forward with a lawsuit, unless she can't prove the assaults and just wants to make his life a living hell.
At this point, there is no reason not to believe her. I just question the timing of exposing this and what is the end game.
How would she prove it? That's what makes sexual assault cases so hard. Often times, it's she said, he said.
In general, we live in a coutnry where you are presumed innocent until proven guilty. He was found guilty by SafeSport but some think SafeSport goes too far.
These threads as a result are impossible to moderate as victim blaming and not giving the accused their rights are in direct opposition to each other. Please try to remember you are talking about real people who very likelyi will read what you read. Please do not name call and please do not state your beliefs as fact as only two people know the facts. Try to provide explanations for any arguments you are making.
Fine, here's some facts.
One of the two parties in this was banned from sport for life for emotional abuse and sexual assault.
On the flip side, if he did in fact assault her, Kara needs to prove this, not just put it in a book and go on national television accusing him. Maybe she is ramping up for a major lawsuit against Alberto and Nike. I can't see why she would divulge this information without moving forward with a lawsuit, unless she can't prove the assaults and just wants to make his life a living hell.
At this point, there is no reason not to believe her. I just question the timing of exposing this and what is the end game.
How would she prove it? That's what makes sexual assault cases so hard. Often times, it's she said, he said.
In general, we live in a coutnry where you are presumed innocent until proven guilty. He was found guilty by SafeSport but some think SafeSport goes too far.
These threads as a result are impossible to moderate as victim blaming and not giving the accused their rights are in direct opposition to each other. Please try to remember you are talking about real people who very likelyi will read what you read. Please do not name call and please do not state your beliefs as fact as only two people know the facts. Try to provide explanations for any arguments you are making.
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