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That being said what drives me crazy is when I meet women online and within a quick conversation/first date they are mainly interested in what my job title is because it seems like they are immediately trying to size me up before even getting to know me or have any fun
If women aren't approaching you, then you already failed the looks test with them to be Chad. If they're sizing you up for whether your status/wealth/income/personality can add enough value to make you worth considering for Beta supporter role.
These women are taking their time to talk to me via the dating apps and going out with me for dates and I sometimes cut them loose after the first date so not sure what you mean. In my experience it’s relatively rare on the dating apps for women to approach me vs my saying hi first. It certainly doesn’t mean I failed the looks test. I believe if I failed the looks test, the women on the dating apps wouldn’t even bother responding and starting a relatively long conversation with me much less bothering to meet me in person.
If women aren't approaching you, then you already failed the looks test with them to be Chad. If they're sizing you up for whether your status/wealth/income/personality can add enough value to make you worth considering for Beta supporter role.
These women are taking their time to talk to me via the dating apps and going out with me for dates and I sometimes cut them loose after the first date so not sure what you mean. In my experience it’s relatively rare on the dating apps for women to approach me vs my saying hi first. It certainly doesn’t mean I failed the looks test. I believe if I failed the looks test, the women on the dating apps wouldn’t even bother responding and starting a relatively long conversation with me much less bothering to meet me in person.
And yes countless women I match with via Tinder do not bother responding to me when I initiate contact. This could be for all sorts of reasons- for example, I’m sure a lot of them do not find me all that attractive once they take a closer look at my pics which is very possible and/or they are just inundated with messages from random guys and/or they are not on Tinder to be serious about actually meeting anyone in person but just on the dating apps as attention seekers/scammers/trying to increase followings as Instagram influencers (quite common).
In order to date and have sex with women, you need to look good enough to even be considered for such in the first place.
I can't believe this post is being downvoted. It's literally the truth.
But I get it, it's hard listening it's all about genes. It's hard accepting there's no free-will. Better shoot the messager.
This is my last post in this thread and on LetsRun. Bye.
It's getting downvoted (I believe) because it's not completely true. There are plenty of fat ugly dudes who can elicit attraction by being emotionally attractive (i.e. funny, flirtatious, causing drama) or by being wealthy and having high status. Sorry, but being the sexy Chad who jerks off to himself in the mirror is not the only way you can have success with women, although it doesn't hurt. Go to a bar or club and you'll see plenty of tall, good looking, muscular guys standing awkwardly alone or doing shots with his buddies, not being swarmed by hot women like some like to imagine.
This happened today and I’m going to try to keep it short. mountain biking near the W magnolia trailhead. there’s a sweet girl jogging the trail with her dog. The trails up there are spider webby and my buddy I and keep overlapping & passing her. Anyway we stop for a bit to look at the trail (easy to get lost there) and see her stopped, and start rolling by her and she’s like ‘there’s a moose up there.’ I was like ‘actually there’s a moose AND a calf, you and your dog should probably get out of here.’ she’s like ‘ok, but can I stay with you guys until we get a bit of distance’. Anyway we head away from the moose, and then on que, that damn thing comes flying down the trail. She’s about 50m ahead of us , my friend and I are like ‘get into the trees, pick up your dog.’
The moose (+calf)stops about 20m from her. like a total tool, I pick up a giant stick and start walking towards the girl to be between the girl and moose. because I’m an idiot and plan to fight a moose with a stick to protect some random chick I don’t know. I tell her to pick up her dog and slowly start walking back towards my friend and I. eventually she gets to ‘safely’ of the mtbers with sticks. she’s really chill about it, says ‘my dog is used to horses.’ my buddy and I agree to hang back so she can get up the trail (because we’re ‘armed’ with you know - bikes and sticks).
anyway we eventually pass her right before a steep section of trail (roots&rocks for the locals) - I drop my friend and after and after about 15 min of grinding up this stupid damn climb I wait for my buddy - she catches up and we have a quick chat. she askes about the route and I say ‘I don’t really ride often up here and don’t know, running is more my thing but I can’t get my friends to go with me.’ I’m going to leave it there and to your imagination but I swear this actually happened today. point is, behave like a man, be assertive but not weird and be confident - if you get smacked down, so be it..
It honestly helps if you identify as liberal and as vaccinated and not as a Republican/Trumper. Like it or not, most women online looking to date prefer it (if you don’t believe me, just read the profile bios on Tinder of many women). And since Letsrun forum has a significant percentage of young males into libertarianism/Trumpism/beliefs in conspiracies and BS (eg election fraud) etc., it may be an issue with a lot of women out there.
Lolol if those are the types of women you'd like to spend your time with, good luck with that.
It honestly helps if you identify as liberal and as vaccinated and not as a Republican/Trumper. Like it or not, most women online looking to date prefer it (if you don’t believe me, just read the profile bios on Tinder of many women). And since Letsrun forum has a significant percentage of young males into libertarianism/Trumpism/beliefs in conspiracies and BS (eg election fraud) etc., it may be an issue with a lot of women out there.
Lolol if those are the types of women you'd like to spend your time with, good luck with that.
Well, there are always wealthy suburbs of Dallas and Colorado Springs, but in most big cities in USA where there are lots of young single women, what I pointed out is more of what you'll find/see.
Lolol if those are the types of women you'd like to spend your time with, good luck with that.
Well, there are always wealthy suburbs of Dallas and Colorado Springs, but in most big cities in USA where there are lots of young single women, what I pointed out is more of what you'll find/see.
Ah I see your point, then. I've found in my Tinder experience that it's better to screen for the types of people you want to meet rather than try and shoot for the most matches, which usually leads to matching with people who will waste or time or make you unhappy.
I can't believe this post is being downvoted. It's literally the truth.
But I get it, it's hard listening it's all about genes. It's hard accepting there's no free-will. Better shoot the messager.
This is my last post in this thread and on LetsRun. Bye.
There are plenty of fat ugly dudes who can elicit attraction by being emotionally attractive (i.e. funny, flirtatious, causing drama) or by being wealthy and having high status. Sorry, but being the sexy Chad who jerks off to himself in the mirror is not the only way you can have success with women, although it doesn't hurt. Go to a bar or club and you'll see plenty of tall, good looking, muscular guys standing awkwardly alone or doing shots with his buddies, not being swarmed by hot women like some like to imagine.
Elicit attraction from whom? Other overweight, ugly women? Lol. I definitely agree about wealth though. Wealth is the great equalizer - a wealthy, "fat, ugly dude" can get just about any attractive woman he wants. And there's no shortage of gold diggers out there that relish being with a man of status & wealth.
Absence wealth & status, the "Chads" are having their way. Most women will seek out a Chad as their #1 choice - pure genuine desire at work here (who would have thought. Lol). And if they're tall & muscular - now you're talking a "Gigachad." These guys don't have to do much as women approach them. I've seen this first hand: I have an acquaintance at the gym who is 6'2" with eyes of blue & jacked at 215 lbs. His nickname at the gym is "Hercules." Many attractive women approach him all the time. He's already gone out with a few over the last year so. And there's nothing special about him financially - he has a modest income & drives an inexpensive car. He simply doesn't have to do much with women - they pursue him. He's won the genetic lottery & has maximized it with weight training.
But it's not over for Normies & most Sub-5s. They're going to have to looks & gym max. They're going to have make themselves more attractive to get the attention of average/slightly-above looking women & maybe if they're lucky - some very attractive women. They're going to have to put in the work. Call it a self-improvement plan that can give you a return on your money.
This isn't rocket science - just common sense. If you're a non-wealthy Normie or Sub-5, no amount of personality, game or whatever you want to call it is going to get the attention of attractive women. Looks & gym maxing will better a man's chances with attractive women in this day & age.
Here's another good video on this subject by "Wheat Waffles". I like most of his content as he has evidence to support his claims. Also, as a short (5'6"), gym-maxing Normie myself, I've experienced many of the issues he talks about. And he must be doing something right as he has ~97k subscribers:
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