Absurd. He delivers every time. I seem to remember him toasting the field in Brazil and Japan in hot temps without pacers. He has won 13 out of 15 marathons (might be slightly off). He ran practically by himself on a airport hangar for gosh sakes. You guys are trippin...
It’s fair to be disappointed Kipchoge did not elect to run NY this year. I’m from NY and was all set to go watch him. Maybe much of the world doesn’t care, but in NY there would have been lots of hype and fun. It’s also fair to debate if it’s a greater accomplishment at this stage of his career to prioritize winning all of the majors versus setting a new wr given that he already holds the wr. It is just about priorities. Both are very worthy goals. Kipchoge cares more about a new wr than winning all of the majors. That’s fair, but fans might disagree. Not a big deal, and Yes, he may be able to still do it all. What’s not fair is to imply that he’s ducking competition or scared of hills. That’s just rubbish. Also, I don’t think this is about money. He’s got plenty and lives like a monk. If he wanted money, he’d have run London. No, in the end, his #1 priority is a new wr and a slightly lesser priority is winning all the majors, or even if it’s an equal priority, he’s made the thoughtful decision that his best shot for getting it all done is to run Berlin now and defer NY. The more I think about it, the more it seems like a reasonable decision. It would be a blast if he shocked the world and ALSO ran NY….but just a fantasy.
It would be a blast if he shocked the world and ALSO ran NY….but just a fantasy.
Or the "Bekele double" as it is properly called.
Unfortunately, Kipchoge is too regimented and disciplined to do this double. If he wants to really show us all what a human can do without limits, let him go break the WR in Berlin and then turn around and win NY and set the course record. He could do it, just needs to channel his inner Hassan and say “f it, I’m just going to go for it!!” If he ended up losing in NY, would anybody blame him? Would this expose him to too great a risk for injury? He seems good on that front….
There is no points for running Boston. He can run that as a hobby run after he has retired or just before retiring. There's no point to doing it before.
Bit disappointed really, thought he would go for New York to tick off another Major.
I'm HUGELY disappointed. Yesterday, I was thinking he was going to London and was still pissed about that. Berlin? What a joke.
Mark my words, he will lose Boston or New York the first time he ever runs them (if he ever tries it).
I was arguing with Jonathan Gault about this last night. This would be like a tennis player refusing to play Wimbledon or the French Open. We know Kipchoge is the best in the world on pancake flat course - rabbitted or not. But can he run a legit race on some hills?
How is he on clay or grass? And even that analogy may not be perfect as a marathon course really shouldn't be pancake flat. Think about it. The original marathon was not flat. Yet now the majority of the marathons are pancake flat. for all we know he's a clay court specialist or grass specialist but is lucky all the tournaments are on clay/grass.
PS. I changed the title of the thread to express my feelings. It was initially entitled, "Kipchoge to Berlin"
PPS. This is what a marathon course was initially like:
The course is the same, beginning in Marathon at 131 ft. above sea level, declining for the first 10 kilometers to 33 ft. before beginning a gradual and then steeper climb to a peak of 753ft. at the 32K mark before descending the last 10K to the finish at about 301ft. This is a tough course.
Not so fast cowboy. Last time I checked, he didn't have to adjust his actions to meet your expectations. Disappointed, sure. Pissed? Take your meds. Think about it..he openly wants to lower the world record, clearly wants to legitimately break 2 in a race and knows the clock is ticking on his dominance. He is getting older. Not to mention, the journey from Africa to NYC is too long, lots of jet lag, being out of your routine for too long...it's a hard adjustment. I just did it 2 months ago and had a hard time getting a run in that didn't feel like I was wearing bricks on the feet after that long of a flight. Just a thought.
There is no points for running Boston. He can run that as a hobby run after he has retired or just before retiring. There's no point to doing it before.
Correct, check out the times and quality of runners in Berlin/London against Boston/New York. Of course, there's also the question of why would he want to do Boston/New York at any time.
Berlin/London is the way to go for anyone who's up there, better money, better world wide interest, better courses, better conditions, etc, etc, etc.
Can't believe the way some are carrying on here, just accept the fact you're going home devastated and get over it.
Bit disappointed really, thought he would go for New York to tick off another Major.
I'm HUGELY disappointed. Yesterday, I was thinking he was going to London and was still pissed about that. Berlin? What a joke.
Mark my words, he will lose Boston or New York the first time he ever runs them (if he ever tries it).
I was arguing with Jonathan Gault about this last night. This would be like a tennis player refusing to play Wimbledon or the French Open. We know Kipchoge is the best in the world on pancake flat course - rabbitted or not. But can he run a legit race on some hills?
How is he on clay or grass? And even that analogy may not be perfect as a marathon course really shouldn't be pancake flat. Think about it. The original marathon was not flat. Yet now the majority of the marathons are pancake flat. for all we know he's a clay court specialist or grass specialist but is lucky all the tournaments are on clay/grass.
PS. I changed the title of the thread to express my feelings. It was initially entitled, "Kipchoge to Berlin"
PPS. This is what a marathon course was initially like:
The course is the same, beginning in Marathon at 131 ft. above sea level, declining for the first 10 kilometers to 33 ft. before beginning a gradual and then steeper climb to a peak of 753ft. at the 32K mark before descending the last 10K to the finish at about 301ft. This is a tough course.
What’s he going to do with money? He’ll still have to mop the floors at the Global Sports camp in Kaptagat for the sake of fostering humility in all humanity.