It was high 60s low 70s during the race. The heat simply did not play a role here.
There's been a clear increase in young people having heart attacks. People should be more concerned about what's happening. On a completely unrelated note, NYRR requires all participants to be vaccinated...
I need to open my eyes by blindly accepting your unsupported assertion that the vaccine contributed to this runners death or open my eyes and deny my own personal anecdotal experience that the weather would have impacted my performance in this race?
I'd bet the heat/humidity are playing a role. Its been a cool spring so far, so people likely just aren't ready for it.
It was high 60s low 70s during the race. The heat simply did not play a role here.
There's been a clear increase in young people having heart attacks. People should be more concerned about what's happening. On a completely unrelated note, NYRR requires all participants to be vaccinated...
Do you have a source for the "clear increase in young people having heart attacks"?
And even if this is true, COVID itself seems like a more likely cause than the vaccine. We know that COVID can cause coagulopathy and lasting cardiac complications, so if there is actually an increase in the incidence of MIs among young people coinciding with the pandemic, current or past COVID infection would seem like a more likely cause than the vaccine.
Someone had posted video of the finish line and presumably the person who died. They went down and out and was motionless. There was no urgency to treat this guy, get the defib, etc. Took like 5 minutes to scoop him up on a gurney and get them out. I didn't see anyone trying to save him at all. Why?
How do you know he needed to be defibrillated, he could have been in asystole? Contrary to just about every television show ever made that attempts to depict the process of defibrillation, you cannot defibrillate what is not fibrillating. You don't "shock" someone to start the heart, you "shock" them to stop the current, irregular rhythm; V-fib, pulseless V-tach, etc. No electrical activity = dead, the heart isn't a car battery, you cannot jump start it.
Bad post.
Rick's point was that nobody even ASSESSED the runner.
For all you know they were in a shockable arrhythmia.
More people need to open their eyes and see what's been happening.
I need to open my eyes by blindly accepting your unsupported assertion that the vaccine contributed to this runners death or open my eyes and deny my own personal anecdotal experience that the weather would have impacted my performance in this race?
People can't blame every death on COVID shots. The individual was a therapist at a clinic that specialized in using Ketamine to treat psychologic issues. Special K can cause Tachycardia, heart palpitations and increased blood pressure. A cardiac abnormality or self-medication might be more likely explanations.
I'd bet the heat/humidity are playing a role. Its been a cool spring so far, so people likely just aren't ready for it.
It was high 60s low 70s during the race. The heat simply did not play a role here.
There's been a clear increase in young people having heart attacks. People should be more concerned about what's happening. On a completely unrelated note, NYRR requires all participants to be vaccinated...
Absolute f**king nonsense. I was in it. It was brutal,not the temp but the humidity..do some basic research instead of peddling dumb conspiracy.
I need to open my eyes by blindly accepting your unsupported assertion that the vaccine contributed to this runners death or open my eyes and deny my own personal anecdotal experience that the weather would have impacted my performance in this race?
People can't blame every death on COVID shots. The individual was a therapist at a clinic that specialized in using Ketamine to treat psychologic issues. Special K can cause Tachycardia, heart palpitations and increased blood pressure. A cardiac abnormality or self-medication might be more likely explanations.
He was a respected professional who understands how those drugs work - not some drug addled loser doing lines at a Brooklyn warehouse party. Also, we know far more about long-term effects of ketamine than we do the COVID shot.
We'll probably never know if the jab was a contributing factor in his untimely death. The pharmaceutical companies gave their control cohorts the vaccine as soon as the trials ended, so it will take years to uncover.
The number of millennials, the healthiest generation in American history, having heart attacks is unquestionably rising. The question is why, and if I were researching it, I would look into what has changed in the millennial generation over the past couple years. Maybe it has something to do with COVID, maybe it's the vaccine. But the fact that you're so adamant that it's not the vaccine is very strange. It's as if you don't want to even look...
Sadly, cardiac arrest among young and otherwise seemingly fit people during exercise has happened long before COVID or the jab. Congenital heart disease (hypertrophic CM), arrhythmias, anomalous coronaries, familial hypercholesterolemia, clotting disorders, hyper/hyponatremia and many other conditions can cause sudden death during endurance sports.
Ryan Shay, Jim Fix, there are many others. It doesn’t require drugs, a virus or a jab. Such things cannot be immediately ruled out without investigation, however.
People can't blame every death on COVID shots. The individual was a therapist at a clinic that specialized in using Ketamine to treat psychologic issues. Special K can cause Tachycardia, heart palpitations and increased blood pressure. A cardiac abnormality or self-medication might be more likely explanations.
He was a respected professional who understands how those drugs work - not some drug addled loser doing lines at a Brooklyn warehouse party. Also, we know far more about long-term effects of ketamine than we do the COVID shot.
We'll probably never know if the jab was a contributing factor in his untimely death. The pharmaceutical companies gave their control cohorts the vaccine as soon as the trials ended, so it will take years to uncover.
The number of millennials, the healthiest generation in American history, having heart attacks is unquestionably rising. The question is why, and if I were researching it, I would look into what has changed in the millennial generation over the past couple years. Maybe it has something to do with COVID, maybe it's the vaccine. But the fact that you're so adamant that it's not the vaccine is very strange. It's as if you don't want to even look...
Don’t backtrack and try to sound like your post was open-minded. You said definitively that weather could not have played a factor (that you are adamant that it’s not is very strange…). Would love some backup to your assertions that millennials are “the healthiest generation in American history” and that their heart attack numbers are unquestionably rising. These are certainly possibilities but I’d love to see the data.
0.0032 per year / 365 / 6 = risk in 4 hours = 0.00000146 = 0.000146 percent
0.000146 * 22,000 = 3.2%. Let's say a massive college football stadium.
0.000146 * 100,000 = 14.2% About every 7 games (1 or 2 per season) someone has a heart attack. About a death every 6 seasons.
A technicality that as the population size increases, multiplying is increasingly inaccurate because probabilities don’t keep adding up (otherwise they’d exceed 1), rather if p is the probability of one person dying in 4 hours, the probability of one of n people dying in that period is 1 - (1-p)^n, which for n=100K is 13.6% (but for n=22K, it’s still 3.2% to one decimal).
A technicality that as the population size increases, multiplying is increasingly inaccurate because probabilities don’t keep adding up (otherwise they’d exceed 1), rather if p is the probability of one person dying in 4 hours, the probability of one of n people dying in that period is 1 - (1-p)^n, which for n=100K is 13.6% (but for n=22K, it’s still 3.2% to one decimal).
The number of millennials, the healthiest generation in American history, having heart attacks is unquestionably rising. The question is why, and if I were researching it, I would look into what has changed in the millennial generation over the past couple years.
According to research done by Cancer Research UK, seven in 10 millennials between the ages of 35 and 44 are overweight or obese. The research also said that five in 10 baby boomers were obese at that same age.
I don't understand why the antivax zealots are so dogmatic. Yes, it's possible that the jab could have contributed to this tragedy, but there are a ton of other things in play that are more likely to have been responsible (and afaik we don't know this dude's vax status anyway). You don't get to cherry pick evidence to support your audacious claims, that's called confirmation bias. Regardless, using someone's death to try and advance a phony political agenda is in pretty bad taste.
The number of millennials, the healthiest generation in American history, having heart attacks is unquestionably rising. The question is why
This couldn't just be because millennials are getting older, could it?
Genuinely curious why this doesn't strike you as a reasonable explanation. Would you not expect any generation's MI incidence to increase as the generation ages?
The oldest millennials are now 40. Not prime MI risk age, but not exactly unexpected that there would be more MIs among 25-40 YO millennials than when the same group was 20-35 YO. Similarly, I would expect the number of millennials having heart attacks to be even higher 10 years from now even without any changes to risk factors other than age.
Marathon runners tend to be in good shape. But that doesn't mean they haven't narrowed/damaged their arteries with cholesterol plaque due to genetic factors or "dad bod" years. All it takes is for some of that plaque to rupture for subsequent playlet-driven clot to block a major artery, and that is more likely to happen with heart rate approaching maximum and some dehydration, gel caffeine, and inflammation. It is marathoner's version of sedentary person shoveling snow. The risk is that its the last thing you expect at fittest moment of you life. Never ignore chest pain. Get checked out.
Just curious here, but is there any test or screening that a runner can do to check for potential abnormalities or issues?