"I love the pain of a hard long run": Shelby Houlihan is moving up to the Half/Full Marathon in her return.

liar soorer wrote:

that was not what the rules actually and you fully know that

having a stroke? this houlihan sht clearly getting to you.

fatsos wrote:

liar soorer wrote:

that was not what the rules actually and you fully know that

having a stroke? this houlihan sht clearly getting to you.

Why not deal with the rules rather insulting me for pointing them out.

Have you bothered to read the WADA Code?

Have you ?

rekrunner wrote:

dullard wrote:

They haven't ever called a doper a doper because that would be quite unprofessional but here on LR we call a spade a spade and in this case the spade is a doper.

That's fine for you -- I'm all for freedom of speech and all that.

The criticism at the time wasn't about any of you "here on LR", but about me not using a term that the AIU and the CAS also did not use. It continues with Armstronglivs fabricating more things I did not say, putting this argument in my mouth. It is typical of him to avoid arguing on the merits, or proving his ideas, but rather attempting to make it about me to hide this serial failure.

I know you refuse to accept Houlihan is a doper. I guess her 4-year ban was for something completely unrelated to her taking a banned drug.

meant to say you cant write; clearly you cant read either. Keep spamming your garbage, by all means.

liar soorer wrote:

fatsos wrote:

having a stroke? this houlihan sht clearly getting to you.

Why not deal with the rules rather insulting me for pointing them out.

Have you bothered to read the WADA Code?

Have you ?

Fortunately, CAS understands the rules better than you do. But then anyone would. You are a world-record moron.

Armstronglivs wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

That's fine for you -- I'm all for freedom of speech and all that.

The criticism at the time wasn't about any of you "here on LR", but about me not using a term that the AIU and the CAS also did not use. It continues with Armstronglivs fabricating more things I did not say, putting this argument in my mouth. It is typical of him to avoid arguing on the merits, or proving his ideas, but rather attempting to make it about me to hide this serial failure.

I know you refuse to accept Houlihan is a doper. I guess her 4-year ban was for something completely unrelated to her taking a banned drug.

Those are your words, not mine. You are just confirming my points.

Your post makes a lot of sense. Yes, some people are unnecessarily rude and hardcore. That being said, Shelby was caught and convicted of doping...PERIOD! We can't go on and on about the case built against her and the crazy circumstances surrounding it. Too many past and present world-class athletes (I'm one of them), it is a personal violation and disrespect to us. The years of hard work and sacrifice to earn the opportunity to perform at the highest level, only to be defeated and cheated out of the many accolades which include recognition among your peers and sponsors, opportunities to compete in other world-class events, and the monetary gains which directly impact our quality of life. Did Shelby kill anyone? No, she didn't, but she did take away something from the many athletes she competed against, something for which they deserved to fairly compete for and were denied by someone who could care less as to the impact it would have on them. I don't "Hate" Shelby, and no one should. I do feel she deserves the empty and hollow feeling she will have every time she reflects back on her career and what is left of it moving forward.

liar soorer wrote:

casual obsever wrote:

Fact: she was convicted for doping with nandrolone. Most people view that as cheating.

Most people have not read the rules then have they?

And you use your own words “ doping with Nandrolone “ and that was not what the rules actually and you fully know that.

So she was not convicted of doping.

Get the rules changed if you want that actual result.

"intentional ADRV" AKA intentional Anti-Doping Rule Violation AKA doping AKA cheating

dullard wrote:

liar soorer wrote:

Most people have not read the rules then have they?

And you use your own words “ doping with Nandrolone “ and that was not what the rules actually and you fully know that.

So she was not convicted of doping.

Get the rules changed if you want that actual result.

"intentional ADRV" AKA intentional Anti-Doping Rule Violation AKA doping AKA cheating

No you misquote to mislead.

The panels font sentence on intent, it is down black and white.

Armstronglivs wrote:

liar soorer wrote:

Why not deal with the rules rather insulting me for pointing them out.

Have you bothered to read the WADA Code?

Have you ?

Fortunately, CAS understands the rules better than you do. But then anyone would. You are a world-record moron.

Read the rules that you refuse to read.

Cas did not sanction on intent; the rules forbid this.

Read them.

Armstronglivs wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

That's fine for you -- I'm all for freedom of speech and all that.

The criticism at the time wasn't about any of you "here on LR", but about me not using a term that the AIU and the CAS also did not use. It continues with Armstronglivs fabricating more things I did not say, putting this argument in my mouth. It is typical of him to avoid arguing on the merits, or proving his ideas, but rather attempting to make it about me to hide this serial failure.

I know you refuse to accept Houlihan is a doper. I guess her 4-year ban was for something completely unrelated to her taking a banned drug.

No ban for taking the drug.

Read the rules that you refuse to read.

dullard wrote:

liar soorer wrote:

Fact: she was convicted for doping with nandrolone. Most people view that as cheating.

Most people have not read the rules then have they?

And you use your own words “ doping with Nandrolone “ and that was not what the rules actually and you fully know that.

So she was not convicted of doping.

Get the rules changed if you want that actual result.

"intentional ADRV" AKA intentional Anti-Doping Rule Violation AKA doping AKA cheating[/quote

Did not get sanctioned for intent ; read the rules.

*yawn* Shelby is irrelevant until 2024

rekrunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

I know you refuse to accept Houlihan is a doper. I guess her 4-year ban was for something completely unrelated to her taking a banned drug.

Those are your words, not mine. You are just confirming my points.

Yes or no - is she a doper?

Yes or no - was she banned for taking a banned drug?

Yes or no - do dopers take banned drugs?

queen_bee wrote:

*yawn* Shelby is irrelevant until 2024

2025

liar soorer wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

I know you refuse to accept Houlihan is a doper. I guess her 4-year ban was for something completely unrelated to her taking a banned drug.

No ban for taking the drug.

Read the rules that you refuse to read.

So it was for jay-walking? The banned drug found in her system was irrelevant? You are certifiable.

liar soorer wrote:

dullard wrote:

Most people have not read the rules then have they?

And you use your own words “ doping with Nandrolone “ and that was not what the rules actually and you fully know that.

So she was not convicted of doping.

Get the rules changed if you want that actual result.

"intentional ADRV" AKA intentional Anti-Doping Rule Violation AKA doping AKA cheating[/quote

Did not get sanctioned for intent ; read the rules.

Intent is an express finding by the CAS Panel. You are a world champion liar - as your user name indicates.

Armstronglivs wrote:

queen_bee wrote:

*yawn* Shelby is irrelevant until 2024

2025

Yes, thank you for the correction, she is honestly not worth googling for the correct year

Armstronglivs wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

That's fine for you -- I'm all for freedom of speech and all that.

The criticism at the time wasn't about any of you "here on LR", but about me not using a term that the AIU and the CAS also did not use. It continues with Armstronglivs fabricating more things I did not say, putting this argument in my mouth. It is typical of him to avoid arguing on the merits, or proving his ideas, but rather attempting to make it about me to hide this serial failure.

I know you refuse to accept Houlihan is a doper. I guess her 4-year ban was for something completely unrelated to her taking a banned drug.

They did not have show and athlete took the drug for a 4 yr ban to follow. SH was banned correctly.

But you know this even though you refuse to read the rules.