I have covid - ask me anything

gulpgulp wrote:

Did you have any side effects from the vaccine? Especially the second time? Or were you comfortable after both vaccines? Also, are you a type 2 or do you have zero underlying health problems?

I had nothing after first shot, was sick with fever (over 101) , sweats and headache for 24 hours after second shot. Sore arm also.

Yes, I had planned it out. I had covid about a month ago. I read a lot of mainstream media, so was certain I was dead. Somehow, I think I’ve made it through the worst of it. Thankfully, I did not put down any deposits for location or the keg. Best of luck making it through….

Muad'''dib wrote:

gulpgulp wrote:

Did you have any side effects from the vaccine? Especially the second time? Or were you comfortable after both vaccines? Also, are you a type 2 or do you have zero underlying health problems?

I had nothing after first shot, was sick with fever (over 101) , sweats and headache for 24 hours after second shot. Sore arm also.

Oh and no health issues at all. Just a bit fat for a runner 176lbs/5'11"

Cunning Linguist wrote:

Yes, I had planned it out. I had covid about a month ago. I read a lot of mainstream media, so was certain I was dead. Somehow, I think I’ve made it through the worst of it. Thankfully, I did not put down any deposits for location or the keg. Best of luck making it through….

Thank you, and thanks also for your extremely insightful argumentation.

Muad'''dib wrote:

[quote]carmine9 wrote:

If I am destroying my immune system with vaccines, how did I survive to 84 considering all the vaccines I had when young?

What vaccines did you take when you were young?

I am over 15 years younger than you and we got only 2 as kids in the 50s and 60s.

Do you think these new drugs are safe because other vaccines you took were?

Diphteria, tetanus, polio, measles, mumps, TB, rubella. As far as i can remember.

My question was directed to the guy who said he was 84 and claimed to have gotten all sorts of vaccines.

He was a child in the 1940s. I suspect he is lying

Interesting little lab test you have there.

You are fairly sure you picked it up traveling and traveled with your wife.

Your wife keeps testing negative and she has no symptoms.

You quarantined from your wife since your initial positive test.

You both have had the covid shots.

Thoughts on the vaccine:

Maybe it prevented you from getting sicker.

Maybe it prevented you from transmitting it to your wife.

Maybe it prevented your wife from getting sick at all.

Maybe your shots were duds or blanks.

Maybe a 91% efficacy rate means you were simply in the 9% where it doesn't work great.

What are your thought on these thoughts?

carmine9 wrote:

Muad'''dib wrote:

[quote]carmine9 wrote:

If I am destroying my immune system with vaccines, how did I survive to 84 considering all the vaccines I had when young?

What vaccines did you take when you were young?

I am over 15 years younger than you and we got only 2 as kids in the 50s and 60s.

Do you think these new drugs are safe because other vaccines you took were?

Diphteria, tetanus, polio, measles, mumps, TB, rubella. As far as i can remember.

My question was directed to the guy who said he was 84 and claimed to have gotten all sorts of vaccines.

He was a child in the 1940s. I suspect he is lying

Funny how this question and answer thing works, isn't it?

Exstar wrote:

Interesting little lab test you have there.

You are fairly sure you picked it up traveling and traveled with your wife.

Your wife keeps testing negative and she has no symptoms.

You quarantined from your wife since your initial positive test.

You both have had the covid shots.

Thoughts on the vaccine:

Maybe it prevented you from getting sicker.

Maybe it prevented you from transmitting it to your wife.

Maybe it prevented your wife from getting sick at all.

Maybe your shots were duds or blanks.

Maybe a 91% efficacy rate means you were simply in the 9% where it doesn't work great.

What are your thought on these thoughts?

Maybe it prevented you from getting sicker

> who knows but i feel like (so far, touch wood) it didn't go deeply into my lungs, where in most cases from last year (cases I know personally) it did. Is this what the vaccine is good at?

Maybe it prevented you from transmitting it to your wife.

Maybe it prevented your wife from getting sick at all.

> I believe so, to a certain extent. Once i tested positive, we took fairly drastic measures. She has now tested negative 3 times.

Maybe your shots were duds or blanks.

Maybe a 91% efficacy rate means you were simply in the 9% where it doesn't work great.

> Possible. I also wonder how this efficacy really works ... Is it 91% protection from each exposure, or 91% from all exposures combined? If i've been exposed several times the percentage of protection would drop a lot.

I wonder if my mask could have been a vector... You know, you travel, you put your mask on and off, sometimes in your pocket, on a nightstand... We changed our masks regularly but not multiple times a day.

If a mask picked up covid and i kept breathing in it, maybe eventually the virus gets in ...

I agree

carmine9 wrote:

If I am destroying my immune system with vaccines, how did I survive to 84 considering all the vaccines I had when young?

What vaccines did you take when you were young?

I am over 15 years younger than you and we got only 2 as kids in the 50s and 60s.

Do you think these new drugs are safe because other vaccines you took were?

I have no recollection, of course, on what vaccines I got as an infant. But I recall my mother mentioning smallpox and diphtheria. And I got the polio vaccine when it came out.

I have no reason to assume the new vaccines are not as safe. I hope they are safer, given the over-all progress in medicine/science. A few people have bad reactions to one vaccine or another. An old running buddy has a tough dilemma with flu vaccines. He reacts very badly to them. But he seems to get the flu every year and it hits him very hard. He is a stoic guy so when he describes his misery, I believe him.

Roughly three quarters of a million Americans have died from covid. I don't know of any who have died from the vaccines. And the data is clear that the unvaccinated are dying in far higher proportions than the vaccinated. And those numbers even come from states like mine - Florida - where Gov. .DeSantis is at war against vaccine mandates, even for cruise ship companies and places like schools and Disney World. Clearly his bureaucrats are not fudging the numbers in favor of vaccines.

The link might interest you. It shows when the various vaccines were adopted.

Muad'''dib wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Diphteria, tetanus, polio, measles, mumps, TB, rubella. As far as i can remember.

My question was directed to the guy who said he was 84 and claimed to have gotten all sorts of vaccines.

He was a child in the 1940s. I suspect he is lying

Funny how this question and answer thing works, isn't it?

Yes.

Generally when you ask a question of one person about his specific experience you hope that person will answer, not a 3rd party with a different personal experience

carmine9 wrote:

Muad'''dib wrote:

Funny how this question and answer thing works, isn't it?

Yes.

Generally when you ask a question of one person about his specific experience you hope that person will answer, not a 3rd party with a different personal experience

Delighted that you understand the concept!

Muad'''dib wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Yes.

Generally when you ask a question of one person about his specific experience you hope that person will answer, not a 3rd party with a different personal experience

Delighted that you understand the concept!

Apparently you don't. I asked a self declared 84 year old about his childhood vaccine history and you, a 40 something, replied about your childhood vaccines.

Muad'dib wrote:

Double vaxxed (Pfizer, 2nd dose early July), tested nov 13th with antigen (2 pos tests, to be sure).

Likely picked it up during recent travel, although I was careful. Wife traveled with, she tested negative.

Did you know that the CDC estimates 146.6 Million Americans have been infected with Covid-19 as of Oct 2, 2021 ?

That is 44% of the population.

DanM wrote:

Muad'dib wrote:

Double vaxxed (Pfizer, 2nd dose early July), tested nov 13th with antigen (2 pos tests, to be sure).

Likely picked it up during recent travel, although I was careful. Wife traveled with, she tested negative.

Did you know that the CDC estimates 146.6 Million Americans have been infected with Covid-19 as of Oct 2, 2021 ?

That is 44% of the population.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html

I didn't know. Here in Ireland the estimate is that for 4 testing positive, there are 6 additional, asymptomatic cases undetected.

So total cases should be x 2.5 (if we assume that the rule held true on average since the beginning if the pandemic.

Would mean here 1.25 million cases or overall 25% of the population. With likely stricter lockdowns.

I just googled Muad'''dib and now understand all the earlier references in the thread about rewatching Dune. I was raised watching the original Dune movie once every couple years but I don't think I ever really understood what was going on - I just liked the burning hand and the and the worms and stuff. I saw recently that it was rebooted so I've got to make some time for it. I never read the book and only really read running books so I won't say something as improbable as "I'll read the book". Have you read the book? Seen the original movie? Seen the reboot? What are your thoughts on the reboot (if you've seen it)?

I wish xc was bigger in the US after high school and college. In my area there is a pretty active group of clubs / teams that race in a series of XC races across the state which also has links to a regional USATF championship .... but it just doesn't draw people in like road races do. I did race the Club National XC meet in 2019 which was awesome. I've always appreciated Euro XC with hay bails and the tough courses - the courses in my area are all very challenging and definitely require a different skill than track racing. As I progress towards 40 years old I've found the unevenness of XC courses is much more problematic so I'm not sure how much longer I'll be able to compete without holding back to avoid injury. Do you do any particular exercises to get through an xc season healthy (or at least a high enough percentage of "healthy" to not pull out of races)?

Thanks for the tidbit about the ferries and the pronunciation of Ger ("Jer"). I have no idea where he's from but it will be something to chat about nevertheless. I've yet to visit Ireland but someday I will get there - perhaps I'll even find an XC race to participate in. You mentioned racing in California - I'm from NY but did spectate a Footlocker high school xc championship at Balboa park in San Diego one year and raced Bay 2 Breakers which I'd recommend to anyone. Have you raced in other US states or other countries?

All the fast Irish runners you mentioned are well known to me except Jerry Kiernan - so I googled him. Seemed like an OG badass and a great competitor. It was a nice rabbit -hole to go down reading about him. It's interesting how the US college system draws in athletes from certain countries more heavily than others - it definitely brings over a decent number of Irish athletes. I'm far from being an expert but I don't think the US college system burns people out - I do think the biggest factor is a combination of lack of money and distraction by other interests.

He's French ... so I realize that this question is like you asking me what I think of the most recent Mexican or Canadian XC champion ... but what do you think of Jimmy Gressier? Is he well respected in the European running community?

He's obviously a great talent and I can't quite decide if I like or dislike his persona (and we'll forgo the obvious fact that I'm jealous of his abilities).

carmine9 wrote:

Muad'''dib wrote:

Delighted that you understand the concept!

Apparently you don't. I asked a self declared 84 year old about his childhood vaccine history and you, a 40 something, replied about your childhood vaccines.

Ah Carmine, Carmine, Carmine, read between the lines ....

Anyway, i'm not here to pick up a fight. I think your questions are interesting as they come from a different perspective. So they're absolutely welcome

I'm just not fond of the out of context comments with agendas - they bring nothing to the table and distract from the main goal of this post: kill my boredom.

DanM wrote:

Muad'dib wrote:

Double vaxxed (Pfizer, 2nd dose early July), tested nov 13th with antigen (2 pos tests, to be sure).

Likely picked it up during recent travel, although I was careful. Wife traveled with, she tested negative.

Did you know that the CDC estimates 146.6 Million Americans have been infected with Covid-19 as of Oct 2, 2021 ?

That is 44% of the population.

l

And your point is...?

The 1984 movie is "special". I had to watch it a couple times, read more context, and watch the longer version to appreciate it. The whole saga could have been on par with star wars. I plan to go watch the reboot once i'm "free". Hopefully they'll take it further than the 1984 movie (where the end is actually the start of something bigger).

I ran in the PA/USATF , there were a dozen xc races each year, almost one a week. Our club was small, but we ran most of them. Back in the days I would race weekly either xc or roads in the fall/winter season. No wonder i picked up injuries!

Here in Ireland I actually like tough courses, i'm not as fast as before but i can run uphill well. Our coach has a programme with primarily squats, lunges, and uphill form training that's helped me a lot.

I've only raced in the US (CA and IL) and Ireland.

Gressier's up and coming. Great XC runner, but perhaps a bit slow for 5000m. I don't think he's found the right distance or the right coach yet. France hasn't had great distance runners since Mekhissi and Tahri (i'm not counting Julian Wanders as he considers himself Swiss even though ge has French citizenship). I think the coaching structure isn't there. Team sports have been favoured lately, athletics not so much.