"**** yeah!" Michigan HSer runs 22-second pb to finish 2nd at state. Promptly gets DQd for profanity.

Really, you swear to be cool? That is shallow if you need that boost. That is the reason for your post. A coach does not go over the rules right before you run, especially telling you to avoid swearing. In my case, an official was shoving kids through the chute and telling them to move there f@#$*×! a!! I reacted when he did that to me, "What the f#@! is wrong with you? " He never officiated again. The point on overturning the decision is his family wanted to change the final ruling. With being in the rule handbook, there will be no change. Accept it and move on.

I agree MIS has its problems, including everything you said. It's a very difficult race for spectators. It does have the advantage, however, of having plenty of parking and controlled access for several thousand people to come and go during the day. It's also relatively easy to get to for the majority of the state. (It probably would be better, really, if the state meet were farther north closer to Lansing, though.)

IChoseD2 wrote:

While I disagree with the dq, I do get it. It’s a representation of your school. If a kid in my class said this after getting a right answer, there would be consequences. And we don’t want the next 50 people after him who also pr to shout out profanity at a sporting event geared toward kids.

Where are all the children spectating? You can’t use the “what about the kids?” argument here to excuse your own prudishness.

I love the spunk. We want our champions to have character. It was short, at the pinnacle of the competition, and barely anyone heard it. Get over it.

Slippery slope fallacy.

Ohio is really rubbing off on you. So moralistic and high brow. You’re the cop that pulls someone over for driving 46 in a 45, that arrests a guy smoking pot and puts him in prison for the max time because it’s the law (still in some states), or writes up an employee who is 23 seconds late to clock in. It’s the MF’g state competition. Relax.

1) Yeah, you are the one claiming Biden stole the election. You have to prove that. There is NO evidence of that.

2) Mueller is still coming. Almost all of the investigations into Trump and his criminal organization were spawned by Mueller.

3) I did say Trump wouldn't be running in 2020, so you got that one right.

4) Your statement that I voted for a murderer is crap. Outlandish and insane claim that you have to prove.

5) Voting machines? Again, prove it. I'll just say this...if you think Democrats rigged the election and now we got away with it, what's to keep us from doing it again? You should probably not waste your time with voting ever again.

6) No, I would not be spewing nonsense like you are if the tables were turned. I understand how elections work and specifically how this last one worked. We were told from the get go that it would happen like that depending on how specific states counted votes (either in person first or mail ins first). Biden was leading big in Ohio early. I'm not crying about the fact Trump came back and won that state.

7) I'm current not fat.

I'm relaxed, always. The very loud swearing that kid did is not equivalent to being a mile over the speed limit (which would get thrown out because the equipment isn't THAT accurate). It was egregious. The officials had no choice. Following rules is not high brow.

tycobb wrote:

bigmig19.1 wrote:

Prove to you? LOL, you have disprove the cheating to me, but you can't because they did.

That is so clueless and ingnorant that you are a lost cause. You claim sytematic cheating with no evidence and every judge 9even Trumps) saying it didn't happen. Even with all this you want other people to prove to you it didn't happen just because you are a brainwashed sheep of Trump.

CORRECT! They support authoritarianism too. Beyond ridiculous. 100% anti-American.

D3Stalwart wrote:

I agree MIS has its problems, including everything you said. It's a very difficult race for spectators. It does have the advantage, however, of having plenty of parking and controlled access for several thousand people to come and go during the day. It's also relatively easy to get to for the majority of the state. (It probably would be better, really, if the state meet were farther north closer to Lansing, though.)

It’s about being able to charge to enter. It’s really hard to control access to most cross country meets. Holding the race at MIS is all about making money, not putting the athletes on the best course for the most important race of the season. Anyone that’s spent time in Michigan running or hiking its trails and exploring the state’s numerous natural areas knows MIS is a joke.

"I really want to know what Flagpole thinks about this topic," said no one ever.

What are the consequences if the official doesn't enforce the rule?

You don't have to follow every rule in every situation. Police officers have leeway, judges have leeway, bosses/managers/owners have leeway.

If the officials and MHSAA felt the need to be lenient, what are they risking? Lawsuit? Firing? Loss of pay?

Koko the Gorilla wrote:

"I really want to know what Flagpole thinks about this topic," said no one ever.

Well, here's a thread that was started asking me a question, so I guess you're wrong.

Not a prude whatsoever haha.

Stupid ruling obviously but this isn’t done tragic thing. He’ll get over it.

I didn’t see him flex lol but I’m not sure any good cross country runners want to start flexing. Their noodle arms literally have no muscle lol.

the debate is dumb. It's not hard not to avoid certain words, it's really not. It absolutely sucks that the kid did great and got DQed but you can't convince me he couldn't have shown excitement without those exact words. Gotta learn somehow

I guess it’s my GenX showing, but how soft have we become? An teenage boy swears in excitement after having the performance of a lifetime, and he gets DQ’d! Maybe he should be expelled from school and cancelled for life.

The appropriate consequence would have been exactly nothing, or maybe his dad taking him aside and saying, “Knock that sh!t off. It bothers grandma and your 8 year old brother is watching.”

As a previous poster mentioned, these officials have never stood on the sidelines of a high school football game or a high school girls soccer game for that matter. Competition is emotional. Sports are a healthy outlet for kids, especially young men, to channel their testosterone-fueled inner savagery.

Total and utter nonsense. We’re a bunch of pansies.

This is total stupid! A guy trips up during the race and says “$hit” and you’re going to disqualify him????? The kid was totally stoked that he did so well that was it ! He wasn’t saying to anyone or anything there “FU I hate this!”

This is total nonexistent nonsense!!!

So dumb.

Just give him a 15-yard penalty for “taunting.” So, make him 3rd place.

We’ve lost our collective minds w the snowflakism.

My apologies for the language.

Woke pu$$ies are going to be the undoing of this country. Good thing they never had to fight WW1, WW2, The Civil War, or The Revolutionary War. Too many microaggressions in those scenarios for these neoliberal dip$hits.