Full Shelby Houlihan Report is Out from CAS

Charlatan wrote:

Basically, Shelby's lawyer threw a Hail Mary and it was busted.

DOPER.

Another American cheat caught by AIU rather than USADA,that's because USADA looks after the Americans and gives them a slap(Richardson) on the wrist.State sponsored doping keeps on going.

Folks here seem reluctant to acknowledge this, however implausible does not infer impossible.

On the contrary, the underlying reason for some of these pork, truck, dinner night out, wrong meat coincidences is the mathematics of chance.

It's inevitable that one of the set of all possible outcomes must occur, and in Houlihan's case, maybe did occur.

Consider this: An outcome which has a tiny chance of occurring becomes almost certain if you give it enough opportunities. How many combinations of time and circumstance did it take for that one chance to manifest itself through Houlihan? Who knows when the clock began ticking and the stars began aligning, but it certainly may have been Houlihan's turn to experience the improbable.

For all of you who've assumed that Houlihan's events are independent, consider the fact that the occurrence of one makes the other more likely.

gumpyrunner wrote:

Lindsey Frerichs:

On the night of 14 December 2020, her sister and the Athlete went to pick up burritos for the three of them for dinner at a food truck.

• All three of them ordered the same burrito, which was a carne asada burrito. The burrito she ate definitely seemed more authentic than normal Midwestern burritos. She remembers it was finely chopped meat.

• They ate around 7:30 pm. She remembers this because they ate dinner and then they watched the Bachelorette, which started at 8 pm.

“Watched the Bachelorette”, so she must be telling the truth coz how embarrassing it would be otherwise to admit watching that show?

Has anyone injested the meat in question and then tested in the same time frame? I am wondering if it’s even possible to trigger a positive test?

Good list. Which do you think it is? I think it's either 1,4, 5 or 7. I lean towards 7 being the most likely.

+1

carneasada wrote:

gumpyrunner wrote:

Lindsey Frerichs:

On the night of 14 December 2020, her sister and the Athlete went to pick up burritos for the three of them for dinner at a food truck.

• All three of them ordered the same burrito, which was a carne asada burrito. The burrito she ate definitely seemed more authentic than normal Midwestern burritos. She remembers it was finely chopped meat.

• They ate around 7:30 pm. She remembers this because they ate dinner and then they watched the Bachelorette, which started at 8 pm.

“Watched the Bachelorette”, so she must be telling the truth coz how embarrassing it would be otherwise to admit watching that show?

Lol

Actually if someone is shallow enough to watch that say then it’s not surprising they’re willing to dope.

Go back to Rogue Running in late June. Chris McClung gave a 20-30 minute run-down on why he thought Shelby Did dope and that her burrito story does not hold up. Has Kara even been active on Clean Sport since she has been doing NBC announcing?

rojo wrote:

I'm only halfway through it. I got to admit the fact that she refused to wear the carbon shoes really makes me believe she is much m ore likely to be guilty than if she did wear them.

It logically makes zero sense that you'd dope with drugs but not wear the shoes. Unless it's a super elaborate humble-brag type of coverrup. Yes I know this type of stories shouldn't impact the evidence but I'm just telling you my thoughts.

Why in the hell if you are looking to cut corners wouldn't you wear the Carbon Plates?

Again, I'm only halfway through it but it looks like she had a former lab employee testify on her behalf.

If your intent was neither sarcasm nor humor, you should not have made this post.

Whose name is omitted in the space after Coburn and before Ferlic?

https://twitter.com/CleanSportCO/status/1405666744698425344

Webbster wrote:Good list. Which do you think it is? I think it's either 1,4, 5 or 7. I lean towards 7 being the most likely.

5

I don't think they only use testo cream. No good reason to limit your doping to just one substance.

800 critic3 wrote:

My position is that the evidence is (and has been) strong. There is still some possibility that she did not knowingly ingest it and just went the most plausible defense.

If she is innocent (seems unlikely) maybe just an "I don't know how" would have been better than a burrito story full of holes.

Of course she didn't ingest it. It was several injections to the arse that she did.

Yes!! I find it incredibly suspicious she’s backing up her teammate so much and would admit having the same burrito from the food truck. If she gets popped will she use the same excuse? Look, I’ve been eating at this same food truck which my convicted teammate eats at?

Rememberer wrote:

suspicion in the ignition wrote:

Ajee Wilson claimed tainted meat and had her suspension overturned.

Ajee is the most suspicious. When her positive came through she had all of her grocery store receipts, all of her red meat consumption was traced back (allegedly). Who does that????

Anyway, pretty clear what happened to Shelby. She was taking an illegal supplement, probably ostarine, that was contaminated with nandrolone. Ostarine clears your system quickly, but not the nandrolone.

I do. I balance my credit card statements every month to the penny as I refuse to let anyone charge me $0.01 more than they should. All bills and receipts are stapled to my credit card statements and shredded on a rolling 12 month basis.

Harambe wrote:

I am pleased that the expert witness Shelby brought confirmed that she didn’t inject it and that one dose of oral pro-hormone (necessary to produce the low level test results) would do effectively nothing for athlete performance.

I definitely don’t think this was intentional nandrolone doping. Shelby may have been taking a fishy supplement though.

If the issue was a legal but tainted supplement then why not immediately get all the things you take tested? It's the immediate defense strategy and if one of the supplements is positive then you have your way out of this mess. Only explanation involving "supplements" is if she was taking something that was not legal. Everything else she should have immediately submitted to analysis.

post nups wrote:

So in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence of what was in her urine sample you're considering what kind of shoes she wore as exculpatory evidence?[/quote]

Surely you know by now that rojo does not understand science.[/quote]

He/they are being willfully ignorant.

I think it's likely she cheated, and she definitely failed to overcome the high burden of the athlete to definitively explain the source of the nandrolne in her system. I don't see how she doesn't end up serving at least half her sentence if there is another appeal step. That said, this is a system that will eventually catch a false positive and ruin an innocent athlete.

There are lots of lessons to learn here for future cheaters, and clean athletes looking to protect themselves that are far more important than just one individual. I do have a problem with the analysis of the science in this report making assumptions too many people are taking as fact. I think it's just as likely these ladies were served abnormal meat (during a pandemic with reduced USAD meat inspections from a hipster food truck in Portland) as it is that Shelby was cheating. While we cannot know the properties of this meat and I don't think it is likely to have been the sole source of nandralone in her system based on the analysis. This is just a coincidence in eating at a food truck that may not adhere to American cuisine norms the day before a test. Correlation and causation are very different things. Regardless, athletes in track need to better protect themselves. Other professional sports collectively bargain PED testing giving athletes a collective voice on how they want their sport administered. Also if an elite athlete isn't documenting everything that goes in their body, they are leaving themselves open to not being able to explain an abnormal test result.

Birkoboy wrote:

Another American cheat caught by AIU rather than USADA,that's because USADA looks after the Americans and gives them a slap(Richardson) on the wrist.State sponsored doping keeps on going.

The notion that the US has state-sponsored doping is laughable. We don't even care enough to have state-sponsored athletes, unlike every other industrialized nation.

But you're right that this is what the AIU is for. USADA has proven somewhat credulous in the past, though I'm skeptical that they'd have accepted Shelby's absurd defense in this case.

here's a running journalist's reasonable explanation for the CAS hearing. Nice right? I agree with everything he's saying. Anyways, here's what he's said about other athletes in the past.

I'm not trying to troll him here. I like him. but the inconsistency is just wild.