Serious thread about election fraud

Let's put it this way. Do you agree that there is a conspiracy among powerful Democrats in the media and tech industry to silence those pushing election fraud claims?

1) Legacy news media has way less power than ever before. As many people listen to Joe Rogan as watch CNN. There is no longer outsized power in the backrooms of big media. 2) The only thing legacy media loves more than Democrats is breaking hot stories and the $$$ from it (remember the obsession with Clinton's emails). If these fraud stories held even a mL of water they would be all over it.

DiscoGary wrote:

Let's put it this way. Do you agree that there is a conspiracy among powerful Democrats in the media and tech industry to silence those pushing election fraud claims?

The media and tech giants conspired to hide the Hunter Biden laptop story for that last few weeks before the election. Do you admit that happened?

Bro, I only saw what 30 news articles, 2000 tweets, and 50 posts on LRC about it? Then even more discussion about the Twitter policy of removing the one NYP article... which I also was able to read. nothing was hidden.

DiscoGary wrote:

The media and tech giants conspired to hide the Hunter Biden laptop story for that last few weeks before the election. Do you admit that happened?

DiscoGary wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

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You said you had LOADS of evidence of voter fraud. All I'm interested in is seeing it. Because it would be really remarkable that DiscoGary on the LetsRun messageboards had evidence that somehow escaped the investigative claws of the elite strike force that is working on behalf of Trump to overturn the election.

But the elite strike force HAS uncovered evidence that should have triggered a massive Mueller style investigation across many States. You just can't see it. I'm trying to help you see it.

Do you think anyone who believes there was massive fraud with a conspiracy to cover it up is a kook?

Thank you for helping me to see the evidence of election fraud. But it shouldn't be this hard. Just post it here and I'll look at it.

And I don't mean a discussion of George Floyd or Youtube's policies. Evidence, like affidavits from people with personal knowledge of what happened. Sworn statements. That sort of thing.

Why couldn't any of the 50 judges who dismissed lawsuits brought by or on behalf of Trump see this evidence?

Signature audit in Cobb County Ga. NO FRAUD!!!!!! Trump lost fair and square please STFU

DiscoGary wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

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You said you had LOADS of evidence of voter fraud. All I'm interested in is seeing it. Because it would be really remarkable that DiscoGary on the LetsRun messageboards had evidence that somehow escaped the investigative claws of the elite strike force that is working on behalf of Trump to overturn the election.

But the elite strike force HAS uncovered evidence that should have triggered a massive Mueller style investigation across many States. You just can't see it. I'm trying to help you see it.

Do you think anyone who believes there was massive fraud with a conspiracy to cover it up is a kook?

Why didn't they present this evidence to the court in PA?

Judge Bibas:

Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.

DiscoGary wrote:

But the elite strike force HAS uncovered evidence that should have triggered a massive Mueller style investigation across many States. You just can't see it. I'm trying to help you see it.

They're just unwilling to sign their names to these claims once they're in the courtroom with risk of perjury. This is not at all curious to you?

"“This is not a fraud case,” Giuliani later admitted. In the same case, Trump lawyer Linda Kearns said explicitly that she is “not proceeding” on allegations of fraud."

BTW, the speed at which you moved those goalposts is astonishing.

"Hmm...where should I start with this volcano of evidence."

Followed immediately with

"Listen guys, in order for my 'evidence' to be compelling, I first need to set a baseline where we all accept conspiratorial thinking is reasonable."

Is there a conspiracy to shut down discussion of voter fraud on social media? Was/is there a conspiracy to hide the Hunter Biden laptop story?

DiscoGary wrote:

Is there a conspiracy to shut down discussion of voter fraud on social media? Was/is there a conspiracy to hide the Hunter Biden laptop story?

I'm sorry, but this made me laugh.

You're discussing voter fraud on social media, and asking whether there's a conspiracy to shut down discussion of voter fraud on social media?

And if there was a conspiracy to hide the Hunter Biden laptop story, it failed miserably, because we all read about it ad nauseum.

DiscoGary wrote:

Is there a conspiracy to shut down discussion of voter fraud on social media? Was/is there a conspiracy to hide the Hunter Biden laptop story?

A conspiracy amongst whom? Can you provide the names of the parties involved?

johnny99 wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Is there a conspiracy to shut down discussion of voter fraud on social media? Was/is there a conspiracy to hide the Hunter Biden laptop story?

I'm sorry, but this made me laugh.

You're discussing voter fraud on social media, and asking whether there's a conspiracy to shut down discussion of voter fraud on social media?

And if there was a conspiracy to hide the Hunter Biden laptop story, it failed miserably, because we all read about it ad nauseum.

But Twitter accounts are being shut down because of this. The Hunter Biden laptop scandal might have been discussed here, but an entire newspaper had its Twitter account frozen because they broke the story. It had an effect on the results of the election.

Do you agree that powerful Democrats are conspiring to shut down discussion of these hot political topics. It directly impacts the discussion.

DiscoGary wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

I'm sorry, but this made me laugh.

You're discussing voter fraud on social media, and asking whether there's a conspiracy to shut down discussion of voter fraud on social media?

And if there was a conspiracy to hide the Hunter Biden laptop story, it failed miserably, because we all read about it ad nauseum.

But Twitter accounts are being shut down because of this. The Hunter Biden laptop scandal might have been discussed here, but an entire newspaper had its Twitter account frozen because they broke the story. It had an effect on the results of the election.

Do you agree that powerful Democrats are conspiring to shut down discussion of these hot political topics. It directly impacts the discussion.

Please god just show us the evidence or shut the f*ck up

If they are conspiring/did conspire... they are so bad at it that it quite literally doesn’t matter. We all read the laptop stories, reactions to the laptop stories, stories about censorship of the laptop stories, and reactions to stories about the censorship of laptop stories. The news media has NO power compared to the decentralized internet as an information source. Just, please, come to terms with the fact your fantasies don’t stick around because they are made up ... not because of some 100,000 conspiracy.

DiscoGary wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

I'm sorry, but this made me laugh.

You're discussing voter fraud on social media, and asking whether there's a conspiracy to shut down discussion of voter fraud on social media?

And if there was a conspiracy to hide the Hunter Biden laptop story, it failed miserably, because we all read about it ad nauseum.

But Twitter accounts are being shut down because of this. The Hunter Biden laptop scandal might have been discussed here, but an entire newspaper had its Twitter account frozen because they broke the story. It had an effect on the results of the election.

Do you agree that powerful Democrats are conspiring to shut down discussion of these hot political topics. It directly impacts the discussion.

I can see this is going to be a one sided discussion so I'll tell you why it matters.

In order to believe that the election could have been stolen across multiple States, one must first believe that powerful Democrats are willing and able to carry out such a conspiracy and that they could maintain tight lips while doing so.

Well, look at what they did before the election on Hunter's laptop. They effectively spiked the story with no major outlets breaking ranks. Very impressive. The Trump/Russia scandal had no basis and laws were broken to persecute the Trump admin, but Democrats across the board kept it alive with no one questioning core accusations or revealing the corrupt coup underlying it all. Very impressive.

Oh yes. Democrats are willing and able to carry out multi-State election fraud while maintaining radio silence. Can we agree on that?

1) I am skeptical of fraud that requires ~1000s of people to coordinate and stay silent. 2) I think you are too far gone into fantasyland to have real discussion. "They" didn't do anything to the H. Biden laptop story. We all heard about it, read about it, were inundated with it for 2 weeks in October. Unsure how you can say otherwise.

DiscoGary wrote:

I can see this is going to be a one sided discussion so I'll tell you why it matters.

In order to believe that the election could have been stolen across multiple States, one must first believe that powerful Democrats are willing and able to carry out such a conspiracy and that they could maintain tight lips while doing so.

Well, look at what they did before the election on Hunter's laptop. They effectively spiked the story with no major outlets breaking ranks. Very impressive. The Trump/Russia scandal had no basis and laws were broken to persecute the Trump admin, but Democrats across the board kept it alive with no one questioning core accusations or revealing the corrupt coup underlying it all. Very impressive.

Oh yes. Democrats are willing and able to carry out multi-State election fraud while maintaining radio silence. Can we agree on that?

Police officers don't need to be part of a conspiracy to be racist and shoot/arrest Blacks in greater percentage due to their racism. And the FBI has been warning for years that white supremacists are encouraging members to infiltrate law enforcement.

No, we aren't in the 1800s, but I don't think that is a useful distinction. The 1900s had plenty of examples of racism. Fewer than 90 years ago 28 Black Americans were lynched. And much of that racism was systemic, such as segregation laws and redlining neighborhoods.

Then the next thing we would look at it is whether or not Democrats had been trying to make it possible to engage in the kind of cheating we are accusing them of.

For the last couple of decades Dems have been doing everything possible to make it easier to cheat when voting. They fight voter ID laws. They pushed for early voting. Then more recently they added massive distribution of millions of vote by mail ballots while simultaneously staging hundreds of lawsuits designed to break down any attempts to secure those ballots. Dem Governors and Sec of States unilaterally changed election laws to loosen signature checks and allow for ballots to be collected after election day. All of these things make it practically impossible to secure our elections.

Yes. Democrats worked VERY hard to enable the kind of cheating that they are being accused of.

Check.

DiscoGary wrote:

Let's put it this way. Do you agree that there is a conspiracy among powerful Democrats in the media and tech industry to silence those pushing election fraud claims?

Absurd. The MSM reports every lawsuit and most probably, nearly every new allegation. They don't provide much detail because there rarely is much detail to report, except when there is detail that is false and, often, has already been disproven.

And your statement about loads of evidence from the elite strike force is laughable. They have tossed out a lot of accusations. Some of those accusations were amplified by Fox and Newsmax, who now are walking them back because they are facing lawsuits as a result of irresponsibly repeating what the so-called elite strike force fed them.

As for the elite strike force, Ellis is an attorney of zero gravitas and no relevant experience. Rudy has been a drunken embarrassment. Powell has been the worst. Her filings are replete with mistakes and false accusations. She has claimed subject matter experts whose credentials are falsified. I know serious, very conservative attorneys who are asking state bars to consider disciplinary inquiries based on her unprofessional conduct.