Serious thread about election fraud

I'm not who you are arguing with - but generally I would rather social media companies censor at little as possible because it does violate the spirit of free discourse that seems to have allowed America to flourish for 2.5 centuries. I think codifying such preferences would give the government broad power to control speech no matter how you wrote it - so hopefully never going to happen. Plus you're correct, certain sets of paranoid people tend to crave "secret knowledge" and so top down censorship does fuel their misguided convictions. That being said - the "censorship situation" is 1000x better than it was 20 or 40 or 60 years ago. The internet has democratized information and "news" you can find 1,000,000 posts and pages detailing election fraud, Trump's sexual adventures with Putin, Biden's "alien" dietary habits, whatever you want. 40 years ago you had, what, 5 major TV networks, and your local newspaper? Much easier to control the narrative there - which did happen.

His first two examples of evidence of election fraud were a George Floyd rant and private company moderation. You can’t make this stuff up.

DiscoGary wrote:

But watch what happens when I do this.

You're like a frickin debate magician. Never thought of not like that. Bravo.

DiscoGary wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

I'm beginning to think that you weren't telling the truth when you said you had LOADS of evidence of election fraud.

OK. Let's give it a shot.

First piece of evidence:

Media censorship of election fraud claims

Here's one link of many:

https://youtubecensorship.com/2020-12-10-youtube-remove-videos-exposing-2020-election-fraud.html

What do you think of that?

Because I'm a good guy and I'm also getting a little tired of going in circles, I'll help you out here.

It took all of 30 seconds on the internet, and I found evidence of voter fraud in this year's election. Dead people voting. The guy behind the fraud got caught and has been charged.

Of course, it involved only two votes, and they were both for Trump.

Harambe wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Fantastic. So you are joining the growing number of people who don't trust our system of justice to reveal the truth. Welcome aboard. We are making progress!

Now, are you still among those who say election fraud didn't happen because judges aren't taking the cases? Or are you going to maintain a double standard? See what I did there?

You seem reasonable. You haven't insulted me yet. If you register your handle we'll let you join the discussion.

But these judges were appointed by the GOP and some by Trump himself! Why would they do him in like this.

The DEEP STATE is insane, I tell you.

The obvious conclusion is that Trump himself is part of the D33P ST4T3

Can I just say that I love this thread? It has been a pleasure trolling the mentally ill MAGAs for the last few months. I think my crowning achievement was when Wejo bought into my "mountains of evidence" troll post from the first few pages LOL.

Wow, you immediately start your post off with a ridiculous strawman, I would expect nothing less from a radical leftist. I never said having black skin predisposes people to commit crime (where did you even get this idea from?), I just said black people commit crimes at a higher rate compared to other races, which could be explained by a myriad of factors associated with those outcomes.

I am familiar with the US's history. I also know a small % of rich white people owned slaves 150-200 years ago, but a lot has happened in the last 160 years, such as the Thirteenth amendment and the Civil Rights Act. The US was not "built of slavery," people happened to have slaves, just like most of the rest of the world at the time, including African countries where the slaves were bought from in the first place.

We're not in the 1800's anymore, we're in 2020, so unless you can point to some evidence that higher crime rates among Black populations are because of oppression 200 years ago (as opposed to other factors, such as cultural and socioeconomic factors, then your theory is crap. And yes, the idea that black people aren't actually committing crimes at a higher rate (as mentioned by fasciz), and innocent black people are merely unfairly arrested by racist (even black) police officers, then unfairly sentenced by racist juries and judges, all in an effort to oppress black folks all over the country would constitute as a conspiracy.

And there is plenty of evidence of voter fraud, some people just choose to turn a blind eye to it.

Here's more evidence of voter fraud, or at least attempted voter fraud because these two lunatics got caught before they could carry out their plot.

Arrested on their way to the vote counting center in Philadelphia with guns and a truck full of fake ballots, they were M*GA to the core and QAnon cultists.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/11/07/report-armed-qanon-supporter-drove-to-philadelphia-to-deliver-truck-full-of-fake-votes/?sh=582a4c6438fc

Can either of you understand how a huge number of people would look at that censorship and think they must be hiding something? ..and that the people who think that aren't just crazy haters?

Can we agree on that?

Paradoxical wrote:

And there is plenty of evidence of voter fraud, some people just choose to turn a blind eye to it.

[citation needed]

DiscoGary wrote:

Can either of you understand how a huge number of people would look at that censorship and think they must be hiding something? ..and that the people who think that aren't just crazy haters?

Can we agree on that?

Still waiting on that evidence and/or your George Floyd pivot. Let's see!

Unironically uses "radical leftist" while accusing others of strawmen - heh.

DiscoGary wrote:

Can either of you understand how a huge number of people would look at that censorship and think they must be hiding something? ..and that the people who think that aren't just crazy haters?

Can we agree on that?

No, a private platform removing fake allegations of fraud is not evidence of fraud.

Trump repeatedly claiming that he won the election is also not evidence.

Polling mentally ill MAGAs asking who won the election is also not evidence of fraud.

The only evidence of fraud that would suggest there was fraud would be direct evidence of fraud.

Not conjecture.

Not gish gallop.

No screaming RINO.

Just evidence. That's all I need to be convinced!

DiscoGary wrote:

Can either of you understand how a huge number of people would look at that censorship and think they must be hiding something? ..and that the people who think that aren't just crazy haters?

Can we agree on that?

Let's stick to the topic.

Can we agree that your claim to have LOADS of evidence of election fraud is bullsh*t?

You stated that black people commit more crime, and that there aren't external factors working against them. There isn't much room to wiggle your way out of this one buddy.

johnny99 wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Can either of you understand how a huge number of people would look at that censorship and think they must be hiding something? ..and that the people who think that aren't just crazy haters?

Can we agree on that?

Let's stick to the topic.

Can we agree that your claim to have LOADS of evidence of election fraud is bullsh*t?

This is the topic. I'm showing you what the world looks like from the other side because I know that if you can't see that perspective then everything that follows won't matter. I am not asking you to admit their was any fraud. I'm asking if you can see how other people view what's happening.

Oh Yeah is making the mistake of trying to present evidence of fraud to a group of people who think that anyone who presents evidence of fraud is a kook. Well.... I have to get past the "kook" phase before I can begin presenting evidence.

Now, do both of you agree that those who think election fraud is a real issue aren't just kooks and conspiracy theorists? The media censorship alone proves there IS a conspiracy to silence them.

You said you had LOADS of evidence of voter fraud. All I'm interested in is seeing it. Because it would be really remarkable that DiscoGary on the LetsRun messageboards had evidence that somehow escaped the investigative claws of the elite strike force that is working on behalf of Trump to overturn the election.

johnny99 wrote:

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You said you had LOADS of evidence of voter fraud. All I'm interested in is seeing it. Because it would be really remarkable that DiscoGary on the LetsRun messageboards had evidence that somehow escaped the investigative claws of the elite strike force that is working on behalf of Trump to overturn the election.

But the elite strike force HAS uncovered evidence that should have triggered a massive Mueller style investigation across many States. You just can't see it. I'm trying to help you see it.

Do you think anyone who believes there was massive fraud with a conspiracy to cover it up is a kook?

The "fraud believers" are motivated by a religion-like dogma, not by rationality or evidence - why do we have to entertain their beliefs?