(*_*) wrote:
This is literally a personality cult based on anecdotal n=1 experience. You guys thumb your nose up at the scientific discussion and consider it distracting, despite that if you paid attention, what people have been posting supports this style of training with actual evidence.
All the relevant information was included in post #9 and the thread should have ended there. The idea that VO2 max work isn't strictly necessary and you should try to stay under threshold isn't new and it predates Bakken, Kristoffer, Tinman, and Sirpoc. It's common sense, regardless of whether it's then obfuscated with lactate testing, stress/strain scores, interval design, and walls of text about training.
I'm going to take a break from this thread, it has become a circle jerk and all the wankery has left a bad taste in my mouth, regardless of if whether Lexel has been irritating about discussing the critical power/speed model and deserving of some amount of appraisal. No offense to Sirpoc, he is probably a very nice guy and he gives good information, but the reaction to it, you think it was the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
With all due respect, nothing against the guys debating the scientific debate. Most of us here reading, or in the Strava group, are hobby joggers wanting to get better, with limited time and scientific understanding. This thread, for the most part, presents itself in such a way that older runners like me can likely get better , without as much injury risk in a very basic and simple way in a time crunched manner, without worrying about lactate meters etc. That's it. I can't speak for everyone, but I think that has what has captured the imagination and I for one on the group Fusio created on Strava have loved seeing PBs from people of all ages, gender, training like this.. No tricks, no magic sessions, just absolute basics set out in a structured way from the first couple of pages of this thread. Let's not get into classic early 2000s lets run territory and ruin a perfectly good thread.
On another note, thank you Hard2find. That's a very neat chart and will help a lot.
