Amazing day, perfect conditions. It’s hard to be just right on the biggest day but that’s why we run the races.
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Hammel is on the spectrum? How did you come to that conclusion? As a gal on the spectrum who helps co-coach my old HS team from time to time, having ASD doesn't automatically mean you're awkward with other ppl or a "cancer of a person". I like to think I'm pretty friendly and get along with others (enough for my old HS coach to ask me to help him coach) in spite of my condition and I've met completely neurotypical people who don't know how to get along with others communication-wise and are complete jerks.
However I do agree that Ventura fell off, probably because of Hammel's subpar coaching. #BringCruzBack
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hulnne wrote:
Combined girls (when not cut down to 20 teams)
JSerra 160
Santiago Corona 161
Buchanan 171
Trabuco Hills 228
Ventura 337
Cathedral Catholic 427
Whitney 451Combined boys (when not cut down to 20 teams)
San Clemente 130
Dana Hills 155
Great Oak 266
Oakdale 286
Trabuco Hills 316
Palisades Charter 359
Santa Barbara 434Palisades Charter boys was the surprise of the day for me. They were way back at Woodbridge and Mt Sac. They put it all together at the right time.
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Cancer at Ventura wrote:
Venchure wrote:
Ventura girls team 5th in the merge, far behind 4th
#BringCruzBack
The problem with Matt Hammel. He’s causing divide between the teams and coaches. This is why Cruz left. Matt is a strange guy as he’s on the spectrum. She is very awkward to the parents , kids and coaches. A complete cancer of a person
Matt Hammel has been an issue ever since his kids were in the program. Sadie E is such a nice girl, but since Matt’s involved everyone can’t wait for her to graduate so Matt is gone for good.
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I would watch wrote:
I’m wondering how the overall merge results compare with “the merge” results. Will Buchanan leapfrog JSerra and Santiago? All three are close. I would hope all three get in to NXN.
I don’t think Buchanan will leapfrog JSerra and Santiago
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Cancer at Ventura wrote:
Venchure wrote:
Ventura girls team 5th in the merge, far behind 4th
#BringCruzBack
The problem with Matt Hammel. He’s causing divide between the teams and coaches. This is why Cruz left. Matt is a strange guy as he’s on the spectrum. She is very awkward to the parents , kids and coaches. A complete cancer of a person
Bumping this, asking for evidence. I was the one who asked for confirmation if hammel is on the spectrum or not.
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We cant wait wrote:
Cancer at Ventura wrote:
The problem with Matt Hammel. He’s causing divide between the teams and coaches. This is why Cruz left. Matt is a strange guy as he’s on the spectrum. She is very awkward to the parents , kids and coaches. A complete cancer of a person
Matt Hammel has been an issue ever since his kids were in the program. Sadie E is such a nice girl, but since Matt’s involved everyone can’t wait for her to graduate so Matt is gone for good.
#BringCruzBackWhen someone is one the spectrum they don’t think clear. The Ventura culture has been destroyed because of Matt Hammel. He’s cringe in so many ways. He always gets a pass because of his disability
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WNC2SU wrote:
We cant wait wrote:
Matt Hammel has been an issue ever since his kids were in the program. Sadie E is such a nice girl, but since Matt’s involved everyone can’t wait for her to graduate so Matt is gone for good.
#BringCruzBackWhen someone is one the spectrum they don’t think clear. The Ventura culture has been destroyed because of Matt Hammel. He’s cringe in so many ways. He always gets a pass because of his disability
I’m in Seattle and used to live in California. My kid ran with Hammel’s kid. I have no knowledge of what’s going on now at Ventura, but from my experience Matt Hammel is a nightmare to deal with.
Matt is a High-functioning. He lives a someone normal life, but extremely hard to deal with and very rude and doesn’t understand basic life functions43 -
Trut Runner wrote:
WNC2SU wrote:
When someone is one the spectrum they don’t think clear. The Ventura culture has been destroyed because of Matt Hammel. He’s cringe in so many ways. He always gets a pass because of his disability
I’m in Seattle and used to live in California. My kid ran with Hammel’s kid. I have no knowledge of what’s going on now at Ventura, but from my experience Matt Hammel is a nightmare to deal with.
Matt is a High-functioning. He lives a someone normal life, but extremely hard to deal with and very rude and doesn’t understand basic life functionsNormally people on the Spectrum are very nice and polite. Matt is a total jerk. Maybe he’s not on the spectrum and he’s just dense.
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WaitForMoreData wrote:
hulnne wrote:
Combined girls (when not cut down to 20 teams)
JSerra 160
Santiago Corona 161
Buchanan 171
Trabuco Hills 228
Ventura 337
Cathedral Catholic 427
Whitney 451Combined boys (when not cut down to 20 teams)
San Clemente 130
Dana Hills 155
Great Oak 266
Oakdale 286
Trabuco Hills 316
Palisades Charter 359
Santa Barbara 434Palisades Charter boys was the surprise of the day for me. They were way back at Woodbridge and Mt Sac. They put it all together at the right time.
That has to be the best team from the Lausd section in a long time. looks like they got a good program going there.
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NXN autoqualifiers list from CA
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La city wrote:
WaitForMoreData wrote:
Palisades Charter boys was the surprise of the day for me. They were way back at Woodbridge and Mt Sac. They put it all together at the right time.
That has to be the best team from the Lausd section in a long time. looks like they got a good program going there.
And only 2 seniors
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The Tully speed ratings are already up.
He used the same score scale as Clovis (15:00 = 189). Yes it is the same course, but I thought the conditions were slightly better today, so I thought he might adjust it a tiny bit. But maybe it wasn't enough to justify a different rating for the same course.
Two big takeaways on the boys side, and as much as I like to research things, I am not going to try and look up if this is the first time either of those has happened.
11 boys broke 15 this year.
Every division winner broke 15!!!!
On the girls side, Engelhardt and Blade once again were amazing.
The Santiago team was such a big surprise this year. They weren't on my pre-season list at all, and nobody else asked me rate to them.
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Could you please be more specific? I understand that he is disliked but I have yet to see specific examples of his supposedly abnormal behavior. Postseason coaching skills probably leave a lot to be desired tho given how Ventura choked at state today.
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Times were just crazy fast this year. Wasn't supposed to be a great year in Cali but they really showed out. Great conditions, super shoes, whatever, give it up to those kids.
Fasthorse & Parra & Goodsey ( DNS ) don't auto qualify for NXN on time/place. That's why ya run the race.
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Oh lol I was talking about Matt hammels supposedly being on the spectrum
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Josh Spiker is Ventura’s head coach now. I don’t know anything about him. But weeks ago, people are posting that some of the top Ventura runners try to get private coaching. Not a good sign.
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hulnne wrote:
NXN autoqualifiers list from CA
GIRLS AUTOMATIC INDIVIDUALS:
1st — Sadie Engelhardt
2nd — Holly Barker
3rd — Chiara Dailey
4th — Hanne Thomsen
5th — Sydney RubioThere's a good chance that Sadie Engelhardt and Chiara Dailey will turn down NXN for Foot Locker, which would free up spots for two more girls to go to NXN.
However, the next two girls in line, Jaelyn Williams and Gioana Lipizzo, are from the San Diego area. Like Chiara Dailey, they might want to stay home and run Foot Locker, which is kind of a home course for them.
Does anyone know what the deadline is for them to accept or reject their NXN invitations?
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WaitForMoreData wrote:
The Tully speed ratings are already up.
He used the same score scale as Clovis (15:00 = 189). Yes it is the same course, but I thought the conditions were slightly better today, so I thought he might adjust it a tiny bit. But maybe it wasn't enough to justify a different rating for the same course.
Two big takeaways on the boys side, and as much as I like to research things, I am not going to try and look up if this is the first time either of those has happened.
11 boys broke 15 this year.
Every division winner broke 15!!!!
On the girls side, Engelhardt and Blade once again were amazing.
The Santiago team was such a big surprise this year. They weren't on my pre-season list at all, and nobody else asked me rate to them.
I think conditions were significantly better especially for the later races. The earlier races got ~50 weather and later races got ~70 which was a bit lower than what it was at Clovis for the champ races. All the people after the champ races at Clovis had 80-90 degree weather.
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Any chance Parra gets an at large spot?
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