50+ Masters Training and Racing Open Forum

the days of sitting waiting for mr md to see ya while getting exposed to all kinds of nasty stuff ie the place people go when ill yep that is where I want to spend my time then having mr md give you canned advice knowing all the time u are just looking for a referal to a real doc or test or scan anyhow them days are going by bye

AI yep AI is gonna revolutionize and personalize medicine blood work scans med list DNA will all go into the AI software and tell ya what the f is going on track your history catching disease at early states for example I love my dermatologist literally but she is married anyhow I will spend 3 hours on my quarterly skin check as well as money as she does not do insurance but she is GOOD really GOOD at checking my skin . OK so

https://www.esmo.org/Press-Office/Press-Releases/Artificial-Intelligence-Skin-Cancer-Diagnosis

Software saves the day cheap expert care without any copays or visits to some doc working the assembly line of PC brought to you by our overpriced antiquated medical system that is about to get schooled about time

Charlie wrote:

AI yep AI is gonna revolutionize and personalize medicine blood work scans

Your lips to God's ear, Charlie - having had one melanoma removed already I really am bad at spotting these things.

AI has, unfortunately, already revolutionized social media, which is why I avoid it now. For all I know, there's a bot trolling Igy on LRC.

Here's a good read to encourage us in our daily lives lived mostly offline.

AI has it’s limitations. In my business it leads to herding behavior from the trend following. All the computers are linked to a network using similar trading algorithms which are still programmed by humans. In my view the next Bear market will show weaknesses of AI in connectivity and lack of human interaction. We have already seen a couple of minor incidents of this already,

Mike Lundgren wrote:

Thanks Igy, it was fun. Though I am "only" 67, I looked at the 70+ results and the winner ran 2:16. Aging might have some benefits yet!

Mike, all through my 50s I kept looking at the winning times from the 60+ age group and thinking wow, I'm really going to clean up once I turn 60. Then I did, and the slope of my performance versus age curve became about an order of magnitude steeper, and I suddenly realized why those 60+ women are so slow. Sigh.

Hoping your slope will prove to be less steep!

Just to completely change subject.

Igy which direction is your friend travelling his 1000 coastal miles? North or south?

As far as taking breaks KC I try to be doing something year round as the doing is more important to me than the result.

Going back to 70 plus runners.

Our 70 plus star Lavinia started her running career 59 years ago. In 1975 she made the first ever Aussie World xc team. She also made the first ever Aussie 100 km World Champs team 2 decades later. She has just turned 75 and is still running well. Expect some new 75 plus WRs.

Great genes for sure but far more than that.

Just to add to that. Lavinia ran 1.43.06 at the State Half Marathon about a month before her 75 th birthday.

mo’pac,

My guess is north toward the Great Barrier Reef.

Igy

To set the record straight, I just want to point out that while I have read some of the Dow thread, I have never posted there. My question here was simply to determine the thinking behind insulting someone by calling them vegan, owning an electric car, etc. Given the nutrition discussion taking place here, it seemed like a good opportunity for you to defend your actions.

You troll me here all the time. Perhaps you should spend more time golfing and exercising than continuing this charade.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Westie wrote:

To set the record straight, I just want to point out that while I have read some of the Dow thread, I have never posted there. My question here was simply to determine the thinking behind insulting someone by calling them vegan, owning an electric car, etc. Given the nutrition discussion taking place here, it seemed like a good opportunity for you to defend your actions.

You troll me here all the time. Perhaps you should spend more time golfing and exercising than continuing this charade.

You are 100% wrong about me. But I understand why you would rather blame me than explain your own behavior.

I do not mean to derail this fine thread, so this will be my last post on this topic.

Yes this thread does not need the Thought Police from The Ministry of Information.

amkelley, I am still trying to figure out my "slope", even with running many of the same races, from 1 mile track, to 5 km and 1/2 marathon roads. With temp differences, training differences (a very warm summer here had us avoiding the track for speedwork), it's been hard. Plus, my wonderful training partner, my wife, is dealing with her elderly Mom AND trying to determine if she (my wife) should take thyroid meds to reduce her fatigue and restore her energy and vitality.

So we are staying healthy and running good, not great. Maybe that IS the biggest plus. Not to mention we can run a lot of fun races before the big 70.

Oh, and she and I have signed up for 3 different 5 km's in the next month. Nothing like looking forward! ML

Monster Dash OP for me, Mike. Ran the course today, it’s built for PRs. You climb just 80 ft, almost all of it by the 2 mile marker. Temps 53 at race time. My bib number is 12 so needless to say I’ve been looking forward to it!

80 feet in a 5 km! After my 1/2 marathon with 113 feet in it, that sounds like a mountain to climb! :)

Seriously, got some nice racing weather right now, so time to attack that course! Have fun! ML

*Week 385*

A Subdued Salutation for this week, 50+ers! It was one of those weeks where running took a back seat to so many other things going on; most importantly, my wife lost her mother this Friday. We found out that she'd had a bowel rupture on Wednesday, and had only a short time to live given the other compromises to her health. Rushed my wife to a plane for Arizona Thursday morning so she could be with her mom in the final hours. My wife's sister and brother were also there, so she has plenty of family down there. By Friday noon, she was gone. I won't go in to all the other things this week as they feel relatively unimportant, but I will say I lost a lot of sleep this past week. Only managed 3 runs and 14+ miles (aborted a 4th and chose to skip a 5th) for the week; log reads as such:

Sun: 4.0 easy (8:26/mi)

Mon: Off

Tue: 4.0 (7:35/mi) on the track, felt smooth

Wed: Off

Thu: aborted run + an hour of walking

Fri: Skipped

Sat: 6.2 moderate (8:11/mi)

Running on the track was progressive through 3-1/4 down to 6:4x for the last little bit. After getting so little sleep and getting the wife to the airport, I had no pop in my step and aborted Thursdays run with my knee complaining about my awkward form. Chose to lay low Friday, but had a half-decent run Saturday.

Thanks for the race details, MikeL, and props to you! I don't have anything else I feel like adding today. Hope you all have had a good week. Will look forward to reading about it!

All the Best!

I'm really sorry to hear about your mother-in-law. I'm guessing the abruptness makes it particularly tough.

on the much less important issue of my training week, pretty good as i started to taper for Richmond Marathon. left adductor strain a little worrisome toward the end of the week. My ongoing attempt to thread the needle between under-prepared and injured is always tricky to get right.

M 1:30 double

tu 1:00 with 3 X 3:00 hard (2:00 recovery) -- just over 800m (came thru 800 in 2:59/2:57/2:55)

W 30:00 + 1:00 x-t cycle class

Th 1:50 double

F 1:10

Sa 1:45 in chilly rainy conditions -- didn't go hard but probably still unwise for hip adductor

Su 1:00 + 30:00 x-t

Unless I'm badly hurt i need to finish marathon. One of my brothers is running Marine Corps today on his patented 0 miles of training [long story], so i can't let him get the upper hand.

have a good week,

Dave

lucKY2b: Condolences on your loss. Tough times and wishing your family the best. Hope your daughter and her boyfriend have enjoyed the nice fall in Boise. We have enjoyed very mild seasonable weather thus far.

Those racing: looking forward to your reports

All: I needed several easy days after my yard work the previous Saturday. I may need to make similar adjustments after bagging twenty-two industrial size utility bags of leaves. The good news is most of the leaves have dropped and the house is ready for winter. I bumped up the mileage (walking and running) a tad, logging 22 for the week with two doubles. I am getting back to a normal work schedule of about 6-7 hours a day.

Monday and Tuesday: 1 mile walking each day

Wednesday: 2 miles easy; 4 x 800m tempo @ 4:31 / 2:00 rest; mile easy/walk

Thursday: AM- 3 miles easy/walk; PM- 4 miles walk

Friday: 3 miles easy/walk

Saturday: AM: 5 miles in foothills; PM: 2 mile walk

Sunday: Off

Igy

L2b, condolences on your mother-in-law's death. Yesterday was the last regular season race of our local XC series. It was a fairly flat 6K at a local park with probably 1/3 on sidewalk. I was pleased with my running, but my preparation left room for improvement. The race used shoe chips and at about 1.5 miles I felt my lace come untied and the chip about to come off. I had about a 30 second stop to re-tie the chip on. Fortunately, my 60+ competitor who is right behind me in series points, didn't run this race and no other 60+ got by me. Even with the stop I ran 7:02/mi pace for the race, which was one second faster than last year. Our XC championship race is in two weeks, and, a month and a half before my 69th birthday, the 4 60+ guys in front of me on series points are two 60 year olds and two 61 year olds, so I am very happy with how the season is going. 29 miles for the week.

M- 7 walk with strides every 1/2 mi.

T- AM 4 easy run; PM 7 with 6x800 with 2 min recovery, 3:22, 3:20, 3:17, 3:19, 3:11, 3:05

W- off

Th- off

F- off

S- 7 with 2 w.u, 6K XC race, 1+ w.d.

Su- 4 walk

Good running to all.

lucKY2b, so sorry to hear about your wife’s mother.

dhaaga, I really hope everything holds together for Richmond. I’m also curious about your brother’s “long story”. Perhaps some time.

Igy, keep up the good work!

ogII, I hated those shoe chips and am very happy that all of my local races now use chips attached to the bib. These can also be a bit of a pain as they sometimes prevent me from folding the bib to the size I like to attach it to my shorts. I run in warm weather in a sports bra and that is not a very comfortable place to pin a bib for me, although legions of other women do so.

This was a very light week for me as I tried to let my weird “sprained” ankle recover. In addition, on Tuesday night I started to come down with a cold, no doubt as a result of my air travel over the weekend. I decided to give my body every possible chance to fight off the bug by not stressing my respiratory system with even easy running. So I ended up with only 22 miles in 2 runs this week, plus a total of 6 hours on the stationary bike trainer at very low effort and a 40-mile outdoor bike ride today.

My ankle still has a sore spot but feels better than a week ago, and I seem to have fought off the cold. So I still have high hopes of toeing the line for my half-marathon next Sunday, although to say I’m undertrained is a major understatement.

I watched some of the video of the guy whose name I can't remember setting a new half-marathon world record earlier today. What gorgeous form!

Have a good week, all.