"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

Lead Foil Hat XVI wrote:

We do not vax 100% or even near it for any virus that is endemic. Flu is at 45%; mostly older people. That is fine and the flu still works around that vax each year. Obviously you are hoping everyone has to get these new vaccines every single year.

To be clear, the flu does not 'work around the vax' each year. There have been many very different circulating flu strains for centuries and the flu mutates much faster than COVID so it's very challenging to design a vaccine that hits everything.

There is definitely some antigenic drift and vaccines can lose effectiveness, such is nature, but your proclamations are far too confident.

For example, T-cell responses after vaccination recognize large portions of the spike protein. This bodes VERY well for robust protection against severe disease -- i.e. it will probably take many mutations to evade such responses.

It is funny. We have had 100s of millions of people vaccinated for months now. It only took ~4-5 months for the first variants to emerge last fall. Where are the variants from the vaccine? Shouldn't we be seeing these devastating variants by now? Viral evolution is not as simple as you want it to be. Sorry, I know you'd prefer to see people die by the 100k from vaccine failure.

Noyankee wrote:

Anyway, Biden is going to mandate the vaccine for kids this fall and I cannot wait for you to lose your mind.

Biden mandating kids is like Hitler putting a badge on the Jews, except we American. We done listening. Liberals don’t own enough guns to pull that one off.

Lol. You probably don't have kids but if you do, you'll do just as Daddy Biden says when the time comes.

Harambe wrote:

Noyankee wrote:

Anyway, Biden is going to mandate the vaccine for kids this fall and I cannot wait for you to lose your mind.

Biden mandating kids is like Hitler putting a badge on the Jews, except we American. We done listening. Liberals don’t own enough guns to pull that one off.

Lol. You probably don't have kids but if you do, you'll do just as Daddy Biden says when the time comes.

WTF? Dude you are demented, and no the effects of covid are not worse than the potential effects of the vaccine tech on young healthy people. We all agree it makes sense for the vulnerable to take the chance the long term risks of vax is minimal. It does not make sense for healthy younger people. Why are you obsessed with kids getting the vax and Biden forcing it over parents heads? How doe that even make sense? No, you don't need to answer because it doesn't make sense. Biden will be stopped.

Lead Foil Hat XXXII wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Lol. You probably don't have kids but if you do, you'll do just as Daddy Biden says when the time comes.

WTF? Dude you are demented, and no the effects of covid are not worse than the potential effects of the vaccine tech on young healthy people. We all agree it makes sense for the vulnerable to take the chance the long term risks of vax is minimal. It does not make sense for healthy younger people. Why are you obsessed with kids getting the vax and Biden forcing it over parents heads? How doe that even make sense? No, you don't need to answer because it doesn't make sense. Biden will be stopped.

Yes effects are. The CDC has published reports on this we have discussed here countless times. There was also recently a big study done with median age 36 that showed COVID being a bigger risk for nearly every serious side effectly remotely linked to the vaccine:

The long term risk of COVID is not known. Given that it causes MUCH worse events for everyone than the vaccine it's a safe bet that COVID is much more dangerous long term than the vaccine.

If schools want to control COVID risk they will issue mandates. If schools don't do it, Biden will find a way to mandate it. And you will comply. We gave people the chance to make smart choices and they failed. Oops. Daddy Biden will fix it though, don't worry.

No people won't comply. Why are you so keen on this? Are you not vaxed? Do you need the kids to take all of the risk for you? Or do you just want everyone to be dead in 15 years? What is your demented little hope for all of the kids and parents out there? You act like you know something the rest of us don't? Got some grand plan to take are of dissenter's? You seem sick dude, going on and on making up things and twisting reality ....this is Letsrun....nobody here cares or agrees with you except your buddy bro and all of your alternate screen names. You will lose in the end, your people will lose and the good people will be free of this nonsense.

Lead Foil Hat XXXII wrote:

No people won't comply. Why are you so keen on this? Are you not vaxed? Do you need the kids to take all of the risk for you? Or do you just want everyone to be dead in 15 years? What is your demented little hope for all of the kids and parents out there? You act like you know something the rest of us don't? Got some grand plan to take are of dissenter's? You seem sick dude, going on and on making up things and twisting reality ....this is Letsrun....nobody here cares or agrees with you except your buddy bro and all of your alternate screen names. You will lose in the end, your people will lose and the good people will be free of this nonsense.

I want schools to be open safely and kids to be protected and viral spread and evolution to be minimized.

I also like seeing antivaxxers get mad and the combination of Biden + vaccine whips you guys up into a frenzy so I'm a fan.

Biden is coming. Will you be ready? I am.

The schools are already open and have been safely for over a year. The kids are already protected, they don't need your experiment. The vaccine is not minimizing viral spread in school populations. The evolution of the virus with respect to the vaccine will only accelerate if you place this barrier on the massive population of unaffected. The vulnerable are protected, why do you want that protection to be lost and simultaneously chance the risk the long term health of the children when there is no long term risk for covid in healthy young people; zero.

Lead Foil Hat XXXII wrote:

The schools are already open and have been safely for over a year. The kids are already protected, they don't need your experiment. The vaccine is not minimizing viral spread in school populations. The evolution of the virus with respect to the vaccine will only accelerate if you place this barrier on the massive population of unaffected. The vulnerable are protected, why do you want that protection to be lost and simultaneously chance the risk the long term health of the children when there is no long term risk for covid in healthy young people; zero.

No. Vaccine = less infection and shorter infections = less mutation. There are more kids hospitalized with COVID than ever and many kids suffer from lingering effects. Even 4 weeks of illness is very bad. Missed school, parental stress, etc. A vaccine prevents that. Why not avoid it?

I am fine with schools mandating vaccines and it will happen. It's coming. I am not the person you need to convince. It's Daddy Biden and his long arm of vaccine compulsion.

Harambe wrote:

There are more kids hospitalized with COVID

Thank you for admitting it at last.

Yes, there are more kids hospitalized with COVID, not because of COVID.

Tick tick tick.

Get your vaccine or start preparing for life at your parents house. Jobs, schools, restaurants, sporting events will all eventually require it.

And keep coming here to the LRC echo chamber. That will certainly change things.

The Clown Show wrote:

Tick tick tick.

Get your vaccine or start preparing for life at your parents house. Jobs, schools, restaurants, sporting events will all eventually require it.

And keep coming here to the LRC echo chamber. That will certainly change things.

So proud of saying "yes sir" when Big Pharma says stick our crap into your body repeatedly to save yourself from a virus we created and released.

But why?

The Unkle wrote:

The Clown Show wrote:

Tick tick tick.

Get your vaccine or start preparing for life at your parents house. Jobs, schools, restaurants, sporting events will all eventually require it.

And keep coming here to the LRC echo chamber. That will certainly change things.

So proud of saying "yes sir" when Big Pharma says stick our crap into your body repeatedly to save yourself from a virus we created and released.

But why?

Repeatedly - that's the key point. With officials in Israel talking about a 4th shot, there's no telling how many shots will be pushed. I wonder if people who took the first 2 shots considered the possibility of never ending "boosters" and what the long term effects of multiple mRNA shots could be.

DanM wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

So proud of saying "yes sir" when Big Pharma says stick our crap into your body repeatedly to save yourself from a virus we created and released.

But why?

Repeatedly - that's the key point. With officials in Israel talking about a 4th shot, there's no telling how many shots will be pushed. I wonder if people who took the first 2 shots considered the possibility of never ending "boosters" and what the long term effects of multiple mRNA shots could be.

Seems it is a pandemic of the vaccinated in Israel.

With the “fourth wave” of infections having started in June, the vaccination campaign is put to its first real-world test in combating a new wave of COVID. The results show that vaccination using Pfizer’s two-dose protocol does not appear to prevent infection.

DanM wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

So proud of saying "yes sir" when Big Pharma says stick our crap into your body repeatedly to save yourself from a virus we created and released.

But why?

Repeatedly - that's the key point. With officials in Israel talking about a 4th shot, there's no telling how many shots will be pushed. I wonder if people who took the first 2 shots considered the possibility of never ending "boosters" and what the long term effects of multiple mRNA shots could be.

We are playing the short game with these vaccines. Nobody, including your resident virologists/immunologists who have nothing better to do than perpetually post here I suppose, knows the long game. These vaccines are reaking havoc on the immune system. The worst possible scenario is multiple, non sterilizing boosters “neutralizing” the virus but allowing for microevolution in the vaccinated and infected. We don’t think we’ve seen this yet, but it’s a risk.

Multiple data sets are showing that natural immunity confers more durable and robust protection than vaccination. It also appears that ONE boost after an infection has cleared provides a pretty big humoral response. However, I doubt it is durable.

Caveat Emptor.

The Unkle wrote:

And I literally posted a much more up to date comment from an Israeli Doctor.

No you did not. My article is from September 14, yours is from a quack Israeli doctor in the first week of August. Idk how Harambe navigates you morons acting in such bad faith.

The Clown Show wrote:

Tick tick tick.

Get your vaccine or start preparing for life at your parents house. Jobs, schools, restaurants, sporting events will all eventually require it.

And keep coming here to the LRC echo chamber. That will certainly change things.

The mandates won't last or even make it to reality. It is just a Biden-Harambe pipe dream of arrogant stupidity.

Lead Foil Hat XVI wrote:

The Clown Show wrote:

Tick tick tick.

Get your vaccine or start preparing for life at your parents house. Jobs, schools, restaurants, sporting events will all eventually require it.

And keep coming here to the LRC echo chamber. That will certainly change things.

The mandates won't last or even make it to reality. It is just a Biden-Harambe pipe dream of arrogant stupidity.

Tick tock goes the clock. Those in power's days in power are numbered. The madness will end well before the election. People will be removed legally.

Red America, tell us how health care rationing is working out for you. Having a hospital administrator decide whose life to save sounds like some weird dystopian movie plot, but it's the reality in Alaska and parts of Idaho.

Providence Alaska Medical Center in Anchorage is now operating under “crisis standards of care,” the New York Times reported, meaning it is carefully allocating resources that may cause some patients to receive substandard care.

Hospitals in Idaho were forced to do the same last week as their intensive-care beds were overwhelmed by COVID patients. Both states have lower-than-average vaccination rates. Idaho has fully vaccinated 40% of its population,

according to USAFacts.org, while Alaska has inoculated 48% of its population.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/alaska-joins-idaho-in-rationing-health-care-as-hospitals-are-packed-with-covid-patients-and-who-says-africa-is-being-left-behind-in-vaccine-push-11631717516