My fascism threads
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Ex L wrote:
No bail wrote:
Didn’t Democrats unilaterally change voting laws in PA, against the law, to ensure a Dem “won”? Didn’t Oregon go to vote by mail to ensure they’d win?
Are you asking if Democrats want more people to vote and that Republicans want fewer people to vote?
Yes.
Republicans would love to repeal the 15th amendment that allowed people of color to vote and to repeal the 19th amendment that allowed women to vote.
Republicans would crush the elections then.
Banning mail-in ballots would reduce the vote totals of the poor, the disabled and the working class.
Silly.
Dems want to win.
GOP wants to win.
Neither cares about fairness
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Suspect accused of politically motivated attack on Paul Pelosi was 'completely caught up in the fantasy, in the MA*GA fantasy,' his boss says
Seems the MSM is selling a narrative rather than asking questions.
I am shocked!
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Conundrum wrote:
Carmine you realize you were wrong about the Pelosi attack right? Or is my previous post (copied below) 100% right about your reaction and now you are moving on to another conspiracy topic.
"Something you will never read on letsrun, is Kobbs Hessler and C9 and "Adult" coming back to post that with all the new and verified information they realize they were wrong. It was a crazed m'aga nut job pursuing a horrible political attack just as reported.
(Even though they won't post that, is there any chance that quietly to themselves they realize how wrong they were? Sadly, I don't think so, they will just move on to thinking about another conspiracy topic)"what is this "new and verified information"? i certainly haven't seen any. i am 100% ready to change my mind, adjust my understandings and analyses, when new information is provided. HOWEVER, if your "verification" is a Washington Post article built on references to "sources familiar with" - "sources who have been briefed" - or even better - "three people familiar with how Capital Police learned of the break-in and have been briefed on or viewed the video themselves", you are just contributing to the skepticism rational thinkers have developed about the episode. For instance, how has the "where's nancy where's nancy where's nancy" portion of the narrative been verified? Everything that we are being told about events inside the house between the time of the break-in and the arrival of the police is according to the 82 year old who was knocked unconscious with a skull fracture or the deranged loon who speaks to fairies, am i right? My current understanding is that Paul Paused the hammer wrestling just long enough to open the door and "greet the police" before going back to the hammer wrestling while the police stood there and watched the perpetrator of this home invasion at 2:30 AM in PACIFIC HEIGHTS at NANCY PELOSI'S house whack the speaker of the house's husband 3 times with the hammer. As likely as this seems, it puts the lie to my previous understanding that there was a third person in the house who opened the door and may have reported on events as a mostly uninvolved witness. do i have this correct? is this matching the wikipedia page version?
again, i am more than ready to change any and all speculation based on new information - shouldn't be hard to come by given the amount of cameras involved. I may have missed something as i only heard snippets of the press conference and skimmed through the "news".
Please detail the "NEW and Verified Information" you reference in your post. I am genuinely interested. We are all in this together after all, no one i know wants deranged violent criminals breaking in to anyone's home.
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lockingupmyhammersevenmoresecurely wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
Carmine you realize you were wrong about the Pelosi attack right? Or is my previous post (copied below) 100% right about your reaction and now you are moving on to another conspiracy topic.
"Something you will never read on letsrun, is Kobbs Hessler and C9 and "Adult" coming back to post that with all the new and verified information they realize they were wrong. It was a crazed m'aga nut job pursuing a horrible political attack just as reported.
(Even though they won't post that, is there any chance that quietly to themselves they realize how wrong they were? Sadly, I don't think so, they will just move on to thinking about another conspiracy topic)"what is this "new and verified information"? i certainly haven't seen any. i am 100% ready to change my mind, adjust my understandings and analyses, when new information is provided. HOWEVER, if your "verification" is a Washington Post article built on references to "sources familiar with" - "sources who have been briefed" - or even better - "three people familiar with how Capital Police learned of the break-in and have been briefed on or viewed the video themselves", you are just contributing to the skepticism rational thinkers have developed about the episode. For instance, how has the "where's nancy where's nancy where's nancy" portion of the narrative been verified? Everything that we are being told about events inside the house between the time of the break-in and the arrival of the police is according to the 82 year old who was knocked unconscious with a skull fracture or the deranged loon who speaks to fairies, am i right? My current understanding is that Paul Paused the hammer wrestling just long enough to open the door and "greet the police" before going back to the hammer wrestling while the police stood there and watched the perpetrator of this home invasion at 2:30 AM in PACIFIC HEIGHTS at NANCY PELOSI'S house whack the speaker of the house's husband 3 times with the hammer. As likely as this seems, it puts the lie to my previous understanding that there was a third person in the house who opened the door and may have reported on events as a mostly uninvolved witness. do i have this correct? is this matching the wikipedia page version?
again, i am more than ready to change any and all speculation based on new information - shouldn't be hard to come by given the amount of cameras involved. I may have missed something as i only heard snippets of the press conference and skimmed through the "news".
Please detail the "NEW and Verified Information" you reference in your post. I am genuinely interested. We are all in this together after all, no one i know wants deranged violent criminals breaking in to anyone's home.
Proof of posting and or post-voting under multiple handles.
If you were there in person and you witnessed the entire thing you would still find a way to frame it so that it suited your narrative.
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carmine9 wrote:
Suspect accused of politically motivated attack on Paul Pelosi was 'completely caught up in the fantasy, in the MA*GA fantasy,' his boss says
Seems the MSM is selling a narrative rather than asking questions.
I am shocked!
Stop blocking people that disagree with you, coward. Face the music.
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1. Was there security at the Pelosi home?
Yes, the Capitol Police reported that there were are camera surveilled by the capitol police, but the police is understaffed and underfunded, so the break-in was noticed when 911 was already at the scene.
2. If there was, how did this guy get in?
He crashed through the rear door, just like he confessed to the police.
3. If was none, why wasn't there any?
See answer to point 1. Also, Republicans have resisted attempts to allocate additional funding to the security of Congress members and their families.
4. Who opened the door while Pelosi and his assailant wrestled for the hammer.
Paul Pelosi
5. Why was the glass outside the house if there was a break in?
The nut job said that he had to hammer it several times to get in, so it is very likely that some/most of the glass would be outside.
6. Why are we not being shown the cops bodycam video?
There could be a lot of reasons, maybe because they do not show anything of relevance for the public, maybe because there is an investigation going on? Why would you care in the first place?
7. Why were the cops doing a "wellness check" at the Pelosi house at 2:30 AM.
Because Paul Pelosi called 911.
There are now multiple sources (direct testimony, confession of the perp, cameras, reports from the police etc..) all painting a very coherent story of a M.A.G.A/Q nut job breaking into Pelosi's house to hurt/kill Nancy Pelosi. Now let us know, why are you asking these kind of irrelevant questions? and what do you think are the answers?81 -
True. Even the police report on the events that happened as the police arrived make no sense whatsoever. They don't say who answered the door, and say when the police arrived Depape and Pelosi were fighting over a hammer. This could be cleared up later, but the events reported just don't make sense. But I guess I should just turn off my brain so I don't get called a conspiracy theorist by the party of #DefundThePolice.
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carmine9 wrote:
Fox news Freddie wrote:
This is exactly what 9/11 troofers did. Also flat earthers. Stolen election conspiraciy guys too.
They are just asking questions. Why are you opposed to questions? You must be brainwashed by the deep state and their media!
When questions get answered they don't say, OK I was wrong. They just add more questions.
There is nothing that will allow the right wingers to accept the facts of the case. If you engage with them instead of just ridiculing them, they enjoy it.
1. Was there security at the Pelosi home?
2. If there was, how did this guy get in?
3. If was none, why wasn't there any?
4. Who opened the door while Pelosi and his assailant wrestled for the hammer.
5. Why was the glass outside the house if there was a break in?
6. Why are we not being shown the cops bodycam video?
7. Why were the cops doing a "wellness check" at the Pelosi house at 2:30 AM.What's crazy about wanting to know the answers to these questions?
Please feel free to answer me.
Not sure how any answers will prove me wrong seeing as how I don't know the answers, just trying to get answers. Which is why I am asking these questions
1. No
2. He smashed a glass door to gain access to the residence.
3. As Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi has a dedicated security detail who was with her in Washington, D.C. Paul Pelosi doesn’t have his own separate security detail.
4. Paul Pelosi opened the door for police:
A San Francisco police officer arrived at the house at 2:31 a.m. and knocked on the front door, according to the complaint. DePape told police that he and Paul Pelosi had gone downstairs to the front door and Paul Pelosi opened the door for police. DePape also said that Paul Pelosi grabbed the hammer in DePape’s hand, to which DePape responded that he wasn’t going to surrender and would go “through” Paul Pelosi.
Once the door was opened, an officer saw Paul Pelosi and DePape both holding a hammer; DePape’s other hand was holding Pelosi’s forearm. Officers asked the men what was happening, to which DePape responded that “everything was good.” Police told them to drop the hammer.DePape allegedly pulled the hammer from Paul Pelosi and swung it, hitting him in the head, authorities said. Police restrained DePape while Paul Pelosi appeared to be unconscious on the ground.
5. There are shards of broken glass on both sides of the door. Something that’s to be expected when breaking laminated glass with repeated blows. There’s going to be some bounce back. Have you ever seen a something blunt smash in a car’s front windshield and seen shards of glass bounce away from the car? Here’s an example:
As the baseball bat makes contact with the glass at high speed, shards from the outer layer bounce back in the opposite direction of the force being applied.
6. Are you the judge or the defense attorney? Do you know the normal time frame for releasing police bodycam footage to the public?
7. Because Pelosi called the police and left the line on while the 911 dispatcher on the other line could hear Pelosi try to keep this insane person calm. Because there was clearly something disturbing going on, police were sent on a wellness check.
Here’s a report for you to ignore:
Understand that a lot of your “but this doesn’t make any sense” rebuttals can be attributed to the fact that this assailant is crazy.
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stupid science bltch wrote:
True. Even the police report on the events that happened as the police arrived make no sense whatsoever. They don't say who answered the door, and say when the police arrived Depape and Pelosi were fighting over a hammer. This could be cleared up later, but the events reported just don't make sense. But I guess I should just turn off my brain so I don't get called a conspiracy theorist by the party of #DefundThePolice.
Plenty of details there. Unless of course you don't trust the source of the details, you know, the men and women in blue. Are we trusting and supporting the police today? Or no, because it doesn't fit our narrative.
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Grace Kelly wrote:
stupid science bltch wrote:
True. Even the police report on the events that happened as the police arrived make no sense whatsoever. They don't say who answered the door, and say when the police arrived Depape and Pelosi were fighting over a hammer. This could be cleared up later, but the events reported just don't make sense. But I guess I should just turn off my brain so I don't get called a conspiracy theorist by the party of #DefundThePolice.
Plenty of details there. Unless of course you don't trust the source of the details, you know, the men and women in blue. Are we trusting and supporting the police today? Or no, because it doesn't fit our narrative.
YAHOO NEWS IS WOKE LIBERAL NONSENSE DONT SHOW ME THAT. GATEWAY PUNDIT IS SAYING IT WAS AN AFFAIR
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Conundrum wrote:
my 2c wrote:
This comment sure aged badly. Shocking, but it turns out that Nancy Pelosi and the mainstream media were right, while the whackjob conspiracy theorists and other "Internet sleuths" have been peddling outright lies the whole time.
But we did get a list of all the posters who believed and promoted those idiotic lies. Starting, of course, with Kobbs Hessler. Unsurprisingly, the rest of the obvious trolls (A dolt, aC9, etc.) were right there along with him the whole time.
Something you will never read on letsrun, is Kobbs Hessler and C9 and "Adult" coming back to post that with all the new and verified information they realize they were wrong. It was a crazed m'aga nut job pursuing a horrible political attack just as reported.
(Even though they won't post that, is there any chance that quietly to themselves they realize how wrong they were? Sadly, I don't think so, they will just move on to thinking about another conspiracy topic)
Wrong about what?
I never said the idiot didn't attack Pelosi. I said the left loves violence when the right person gets attacked.
You do.
You don't have to be a right wing extremist to understand the government screwed the pooch on COVID.
You don't have to be a right wing extremist to understand the mass mail election was a fraud ridden disaster.
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Rick Cheney wrote:
YAHOO NEWS IS WOKE LIBERAL NONSENSE DONT SHOW ME THAT. GATEWAY PUNDIT IS SAYING IT WAS AN AFFAIR
The Gateway Pundit 😆😂🤣
Give us something reliable, bright boy…
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
Something you will never read on letsrun, is Kobbs Hessler and C9 and "Adult" coming back to post that with all the new and verified information they realize they were wrong. It was a crazed m'aga nut job pursuing a horrible political attack just as reported.
(Even though they won't post that, is there any chance that quietly to themselves they realize how wrong they were? Sadly, I don't think so, they will just move on to thinking about another conspiracy topic)
Wrong about what?
I never said the idiot didn't attack Pelosi. I said the left loves violence when the right person gets attacked.
You do.
You don't have to be a right wing extremist to understand the government screwed the pooch on COVID.
You don't have to be a right wing extremist to understand the mass mail election was a fraud ridden disaster.
The “left” isn’t a monolith. Plenty of GOP people have been making jokes about Paul Pelosi getting his head bashed in. The doesn’t mean the whole right loves violence when it’s a lefty being attacked. I can’t stand Steve Scalise as a politician but him getting shot was horrific and wrong.
You’re right on COVID, the US suffered many unnecessary deaths.
You’re wrong on mail in voting, there’s no evidence of wide spread fraud or corruption.
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We start to get some answers wrote:
1. Was there security at the Pelosi home?
Yes, the Capitol Police reported that there were are camera surveilled by the capitol police, but the police is understaffed and underfunded, so the break-in was noticed when 911 was already at the scene.2. If there was, how did this guy get in?
He crashed through the rear door, just like he confessed to the police.3. If was none, why wasn't there any?
See answer to point 1. Also, Republicans have resisted attempts to allocate additional funding to the security of Congress members and their families.4. Who opened the door while Pelosi and his assailant wrestled for the hammer.
Paul Pelosi5. Why was the glass outside the house if there was a break in?
The nut job said that he had to hammer it several times to get in, so it is very likely that some/most of the glass would be outside.6. Why are we not being shown the cops bodycam video?
There could be a lot of reasons, maybe because they do not show anything of relevance for the public, maybe because there is an investigation going on? Why would you care in the first place?7. Why were the cops doing a "wellness check" at the Pelosi house at 2:30 AM.
Because Paul Pelosi called 911.There are now multiple sources (direct testimony, confession of the perp, cameras, reports from the police etc..) all painting a very coherent story of a M.A.G.A/Q nut job breaking into Pelosi's house to hurt/kill Nancy Pelosi. Now let us know, why are you asking these kind of irrelevant questions? and what do you think are the answers?
Here is the next set of questions from the original asker of questions:
8) Why were there no pet dogs howling in the neighborhood?
9) Why did Depape allow Pelosi to make a 911 call while they were having sexy time?
10) Where did sheep enter the house from?
11) Why have we seen no footage of any sheep yet?
12) How are the sheep doing?
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Conundrum wrote:
Carmine you realize you were wrong about the Pelosi attack right? Or is my previous post (copied below) 100% right about your reaction and now you are moving on to another conspiracy topic.
I doubt the usual suspects care about "right" or "wrong".
If you engage with them, understand that it is not a good faith discussion where both parties are interested in reaching some common understanding. It's a mistake to think that winning on the facts matters in the game they are playing.
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How many Democrats have joked about killing Trump? Too many to count
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No bail wrote:
How many Democrats have joked about killing Trump? Too many to count
More than 81 million Americans voted for the Democrats in 2020. Can you name 0.1% of them who joked about killing Trump?
Most people don't shoot their mouths off online about violence against politicians.
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No bail wrote:
How many Democrats have joked about killing Trump? Too many to count
Yeah isn’t that a threat of violence and something that would definitely land you on a CIA watch list? I voted against trump in 16’ and for him in 20’. Regardless of who wins or loses you should always root for America.
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No bail wrote:
How many Democrats have joked about killing Trump? Too many to count
There had to have been someone somewhere who may have openly joked about this, but it hasn't never been "a thing." Can you link to a specific example? Dems typically don't joke about killing Trump or wanting him dead. All the chatter I've heard is that they want him behind bars. And I agree with that. He needs to be locked up. Asking for or wanting the death of our leaders is an ugly place to go. This would no doubt destroy democracy in this country. Only sick people will call for the killing of our leaders. If someone broke into Mar-A-Lago and harmed Melania I'm 100% certain most people (on both sides) would be outraged. Families should be off-limits.
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