Serious thread about election fraud

yes yes yes yes wrote:

trumpisasadloser wrote:

How is all that winning working out for you?

So no one will be talking about covid after election day??

Serious discussion about election fraud? 1-49 record in courts.

When will you realize trump is conning you about everything?

He made a fools out of millions!

I am afraid this is the absolute truth. Trump used his followers for his own advancement. Time to face this obvious conclusion, which goes a long way to explaining things that can't otherwise be logically explained.

Not 1 of Trump's lawsuits actually made it to court. Again, for the slow, it had nothing to do with the evidence, but that the courts DO NOT want to change an election.

They were all dismissed because of standing or it was filed too late. NOT one due to the evidence.

DiscoGary wrote:

What public scrutiny? Accusations of election fraud are being censored. The media isn't pursuing it. The cases are not being tried in court so people can not be called to explain their actions. Damn near every Democrat I run across refuses to even consider the possibility that election fraud effected this election.

What have you "scrutinized"? I'm betting you don't know one tenth of what happened.

I WANT our elections to be fair, but from what I've seen, we are now a Banana Republic.

The hearings and press conferences have been publicly broadcast. Court documents are public.

The news has covered it, just not with the same suspension of disbelief as you.

Sorry man... you can't just will these things into truth by saying them.

Again, give us some evidence! There is a surprising lack of links in this thread given the REAMS of evidence you all seem to be aware of :)

ohhh Yeahhh wrote:

Not 1 of Trump's lawsuits actually made it to court. Again, for the slow, it had nothing to do with the evidence, but that the courts DO NOT want to change an election.

They were all dismissed because of standing or it was filed too late. NOT one due to the evidence.

Sounds like they got dismissed because they waited too long or tried to contest things they had no ability to.

Sounds like a competency problem. Maybe you should go work for them?

ohhh Yeahhh wrote:

yes yes yes yes wrote:

I am afraid this is the absolute truth. Trump used his followers for his own advancement. Time to face this obvious conclusion, which goes a long way to explaining things that can't otherwise be logically explained.

Not 1 of Trump's lawsuits actually made it to court. Again, for the slow, it had nothing to do with the evidence, but that the courts DO NOT want to change an election.

They were all dismissed because of standing or it was filed too late. NOT one due to the evidence.

Not true. This one was dismissed due to the lack of evidence.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so,” wrote Stephanos Bibas on behalf of a three-judge panel.

“Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” wrote Bibas, who was nominated by Trump.

See Johnny. Sit tight. We have a ways to go, Harambe is being reasonable so hopefully we can get him on board. Then maybe a third, and then we can start a decent discussion among ourselves. I'll present the evidence. You'll look at it, try to push aside the partisan desire to reject everything that might challenge your world view, and then maybe we can agree on what really happened.

I HOPE you guys can convince me nothing went wrong, but I'm telling you, it's REALLY bad from where I'm sitting now.

I see some Trump thread corruption creeping into this thread. Hopefully we can work around it.

DiscoGary wrote:

See Johnny. Sit tight. We have a ways to go, Harambe is being reasonable so hopefully we can get him on board. Then maybe a third, and then we can start a decent discussion among ourselves. I'll present the evidence. You'll look at it, try to push aside the partisan desire to reject everything that might challenge your world view, and then maybe we can agree on what really happened.

I HOPE you guys can convince me nothing went wrong, but I'm telling you, it's REALLY bad from where I'm sitting now.

I see some Trump thread corruption creeping into this thread. Hopefully we can work around it.

In other words, you're still not going to show us all this evidence that you claim to have.

This is the kind of stuff you can get away with on an anonymous internet messageboard, where there are no real world repercussions to lying or distorting, or simply walking away when that suits your purpose. But you can't get away with this stuff in court, which is why the elite strike force has failed so spectacularly.

ohhh Yeahhh wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

You're taking a quote from Giuliani to support your argument? Not only was he once a mayor, he farted during a presentation to state legislatures, leaked some brown liquid down his face during a press conference, held another press conference in front of a landscaping company and is shown in a scene from a movie with his hand down his pants.

How about a quote from Sidney Powell or Giuliani's drunken star witness?

Yes I know you don't get this, but regardless of who the quote is from, it is the truth.

The things they wanted actually audited were not audited. But go ahead and talk about nonsense.

No, you don't get this. If it was the truth, a top of the line attorney, from a major law firm, would be representing Trump. When you're case is based on bullsh*t, you bring in the clown team.

What exactly does your "audit" entail and who is going to pay for it? There is no reasonable suspicion that would justify investigating the Dominion machines. Giuliani claiming that China or some other foreign country controlled our election is not good enough.

DiscoGary wrote:

See Johnny. Sit tight. We have a ways to go, Harambe is being reasonable so hopefully we can get him on board. Then maybe a third, and then we can start a decent discussion among ourselves. I'll present the evidence. You'll look at it, try to push aside the partisan desire to reject everything that might challenge your world view, and then maybe we can agree on what really happened.

I HOPE you guys can convince me nothing went wrong, but I'm telling you, it's REALLY bad from where I'm sitting now.

I see some Trump thread corruption creeping into this thread. Hopefully we can work around it.

I don't need to convince you of anything though.

As of now I've seen no evidence of fraud that affected the election!

If things stay as they are, Biden will become president in ~22 days.

You're the one who needs to convince us before then! Get to it!! It's been almost 2 months since the election and time is running out!!!!!1

Fair enough. Harambe is on board asking for evidence. Let's get a third and then we'll shock with world with a "reasonable" discussion.

Any other Democrats out there want to participate in this? This may be your last chance to engage in free speech with a real life conservative! Censorship is shutting us down all over the internet! So don't pass this up. You'll be able to tell your Grand kids " I spoke to last real life conservative, just before it became illegal to talk to them." I'll send you a plaque proving it.

I'm only half kidding about that.

Harambe wrote:

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I don't need to convince you of anything though.

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Absolutely! It's all on me. We'll go over the ground rules once we get the third Dem.

Who's going to step up?

DiscoGary wrote:

Fair enough. Harambe is on board asking for evidence. Let's get a third and then we'll shock with world with a "reasonable" discussion.

Any other Democrats out there want to participate in this? This may be your last chance to engage in free speech with a real life conservative! Censorship is shutting us down all over the internet! So don't pass this up. You'll be able to tell your Grand kids " I spoke to last real life conservative, just before it became illegal to talk to them." I'll send you a plaque proving it.

I'm only half kidding about that.

Sure, I'm in

johnny99 wrote:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-lawsuit-pennsylvania/in-fresh-blow-to-trump-u-s-court-rejects-pennsylvania-election-case-idUSKBN2872AZ

Look, that lawsuit isn't even over yet and is still in the courts. And again, no evidence has even been heard in a court of law as the courts do NOT want to decide the election.

I realize no matter how many times you are wrong, you will keep moving the goal posts.

Donald J. Trump for President v. Boockvar - Ongoing

Supreme Court appeal of multiple Pennsylvania lawsuits. Petition for a writ of certiorari filed with response due January 22, 2021. Motion to expedite consideration of the petition for a writ of certiorari filed by petitioner. Motion of Constitutional Attorneys for leave to file amicus brief submitted. Amicus brief of Todd C. Bank submitted.

I can give you a hint on how this will go. The courts will NOT decide an election. They just won't. doesn't matter how much fraud you show them. They believe it should be decided in the legislators. You need to understand that.

That won't stop the Trump team from trying at least. Which they should.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

No, you don't get this. If it was the truth, a top of the line attorney, from a major law firm, would be representing Trump. When you're case is based on bullsh*t, you bring in the clown team.

What exactly does your "audit" entail and who is going to pay for it? There is no reasonable suspicion that would justify investigating the Dominion machines. Giuliani claiming that China or some other foreign country controlled our election is not good enough.

Watch me answer all of your questions and you not answer mine.

Who will pay for it? Trump has said many times his legal team will pay for it.

Again, why doesn't the Rep GA Gov give his own party's leader access to the voting machine for 24 hrs to do an Audit if he doesn't believe anything is fraudulent?

If anything, not allowing that is freaking fishy as heck. And anyone with common sense would know that.

If you say cause he doesn't justify it, then you are just dumb or intellectually dishonest. If you know anything about the GA Gov or the GA SOS, both are as corrupt as can be. But I am sure you haven't done any actual research on them. Just keep preaching nonsense.

What is the evidence?

ohhh Yeahhh wrote:

If anything, not allowing that is freaking fishy as heck. And anyone with common sense would know that.

If you say cause he doesn't justify it, then you are just dumb or intellectually dishonest. If you know anything about the GA Gov or the GA SOS, both are as corrupt as can be. But I am sure you haven't done any actual research on them. Just keep preaching nonsense.

Nah, here in the US we are very adamant that refusal to submit to search or interrogation is not admission of guilt.

You sound very unAmerican, my friend.

ohhh Yeahhh wrote:

yes yes yes yes wrote:

I am afraid this is the absolute truth. Trump used his followers for his own advancement. Time to face this obvious conclusion, which goes a long way to explaining things that can't otherwise be logically explained.

Not 1 of Trump's lawsuits actually made it to court. Again, for the slow, it had nothing to do with the evidence, but that the courts DO NOT want to change an election.

They were all dismissed because of standing or it was filed too late. NOT one due to the evidence.

Wrong. Trump sued the Wisconsin elections commission in Federal Court. The judge, a Republican appointed by Trump, allowed Trump's lawyers to present their case with such evidence that they had. Knowing that spurious allegations could get them fined or suspended, the attorneys presented no arguments or evidence regarding fraud. They also dropped their due process claim, and failed to even argue their equal protection claim. Their argument boiled down to the elections commission's rules went beyond legislative intent (ohh, massive election fraud there!). And maybe that would have given them a hook if their requested relief wasn't so absurd. They only challenged the votes in the two largest Democrat voting counties, and didn't challenge the pro-Trump vote totals in other counties even though those counties followed the same rules.

Harambe wrote:

ohhh Yeahhh wrote:

If anything, not allowing that is freaking fishy as heck. And anyone with common sense would know that.

If you say cause he doesn't justify it, then you are just dumb or intellectually dishonest. If you know anything about the GA Gov or the GA SOS, both are as corrupt as can be. But I am sure you haven't done any actual research on them. Just keep preaching nonsense.

Nah, here in the US we are very adamant that refusal to submit to search or interrogation is not admission of guilt.

You sound very unAmerican, my friend.

Let me get this straight? You believe we should have voting machines that shouldn't be audited by non biased 3rd parties cause that would be unamerican? Please answer that yes or no if you can? That's the answer to everything with this discussion with you.

If you want fraud, let's have some unaudited software counting our votes. Nothing could ever go wrong there......

Being American = Transparent Elections.

If you don't get that, then this is pointless, with you at least.

a reel democrat wrote:

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Sure, I'm in

Register that user name and then we'll get started.

ohhh Yeahhh wrote:

Let me get this straight? You believe we should have voting machines that shouldn't be audited by non biased 3rd parties cause that would be unamerican? Please answer that yes or no if you can? That's the answer to everything with this discussion with you.

If you want fraud, let's have some unaudited software counting our votes. Nothing could ever go wrong there......

Being American = Transparent Elections.

If you don't get that, then this is pointless, with you at least.

There are already checks on voting machines that certify their security, etc. Each state is responsible for ensuring they conduct fair elections, with oversight from the feds.

I think it is fishy that the losing party of an election wants to audit machines ONLY in a state they narrowly lost.

I think you are mad that the feds can't strongarm a state into doing their bidding because they are mad about an election. Like I said to someone else, feel free to move to a country with more centralized power :).