"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

FOX NEW HITS 90% VACCINATION RATE!!!

https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1437844301103390726

Harambe wrote:

DanM wrote:

[quote]Harambe wrote:

wane /wān/ verb

present participle: waning

(especially of a condition or feeling) decrease in vigor, power, or extent; become weaker.

"confidence in the mRNA shots waned"

Do you care to engage with the data posted above? 90% efficacy across ALL age groups in Israel against hospitalization seems pretty good to me, but I'm not a math guy like you.

He thinks :

1) Adaptive immunity waning is a shock... it's not, it always wanes, especially circulating abs. The question is does it remain at a high enough level to be effective in a population? Clearly that's a yes.

2) 95% -> 85% is a massive waning we should be worried about. It's not.

It's just just fearmongering. It's stupid fearmongering. Yawn.

Fearmongering is a vaccinated person telling an unvaccinated person that they need a vaccine in order to protect a vaccinated person. First in History.

Noyankee wrote:

Fearmongering is a vaccinated person telling an unvaccinated person that they need a vaccine in order to protect a vaccinated person. First in History.

I know you’re a troll but let’s see if you can do math.

Vaccines: 95% effective against severe disease = 20X risk reduction vs unvax.

Age: 25 year old vs 75 year old = 50-100X lower chance of death from COVID when unvaccinated.

So this implies that a young (25 year old) unvax person has a (50/20) 2.5-5X lower risk of dying from COVID than a VACCINATED elderly person.

Thus there really is benefit to vaccinating the whole population to prevent transmission even when the vulnerable are vaxxed. This is truly for all diseases. No vaccine is perfect and many disease hit the elderly order of magnitude harder than the young.

This is ignoring all the other benefits of high vaccination rates;

1) protecting those that cannot be vaccinated

2) suppressive variant evolution by reducing viral reproduction

lol, you’ve got guts bro, give you credit for that. Nothing is ever personal coming from me, we’re all just trying to get it straight. I’m actually darn good at math but why on Earth would we force a natural immunity individual to get a vaccine when they are ~25% more protected than a “vaccinated” individual?

Noyankee wrote:

lol, you’ve got guts bro, give you credit for that. Nothing is ever personal coming from me, we’re all just trying to get it straight. I’m actually darn good at math but why on Earth would we force a natural immunity individual to get a vaccine when they are ~25% more protected than a “vaccinated” individual?

Bro. I just. What.

Math: D- (try again, you dropped a decimal)

Reading Comp: F (3rd grade level)

Analytical skills: F-

This is a joke right?

Dude, your "math" is way off here. You can't be this dumb? You can't just lump all 25 year olds together when most of the younger people dying of covid have serious health issues. If you are younger and of good health the odds are much much lower. This is typical of you though; manipulate data and reality or dumb it down so much it could fit any narrative and then claim truth. No, you are still wrong. The risk for the average healthy young person is extremely low and you either know it and are being disingenuous or you truly are this naive and stupid. You choose, I know you think you are the smartest person in the world, and definitely here on Letsrun; reality is you are just average like everyone else. Average like all of us. This time you are wrong.

Mass vaccination for an endemic disease will not stop variant evolution, it will guide it around the vaccine and leave the vulnerable eventually unprotected.

2600 bro wrote:

Noyankee wrote:

lol, you’ve got guts bro, give you credit for that. Nothing is ever personal coming from me, we’re all just trying to get it straight. I’m actually darn good at math but why on Earth would we force a natural immunity individual to get a vaccine when they are ~25% more protected than a “vaccinated” individual?

Bro. I just. What.

Math: D- (try again, you dropped a decimal)

Reading Comp: F (3rd grade level)

Analytical skills: F-

This is a joke right?

Dude, you are the joke, right?

You missed the point entirely.

Slow down.

You didn’t need to write a garbled paragraph.

The point was that vaxxed elderly are still at higher risk than unvaxxed young people. They are for many diseases.

Therefore suppressing transmission is still important because no vaccine is perfect.

Vaccinating younger people and “herd immunity” protects the most at risk even further for virtually zero cost.

Israel is now the world's Covid hotspot: Cases soar despite country's trail-blazing vaccine roll-out - sparking fears other highly-vaccinated countries will be hit by another wave due to jabs' waning immunity

Israel recorded 1,892 cases per million people on Wednesday — nearly 0.2% of entire population in single day

Despite being one of the most vaccinated nations in world, country is in midst of an unprecedented new wave

3 September 2021

Israel has become the Covid capital of the world despite leading the charge on vaccines, in a clear warning sign that Britain, the US and other highly-immunised nations are still vulnerable to another wave.

Stats compiled by Oxford University-backed research team Our World in Data shows there were a record 1,892 Covid cases per million people in Israel on Wednesday — nearly 0.2 per cent of the entire population in a single day.

That was significantly higher than second worst-hit Mongolia, where the rate was 1,119 per million, and double the figures for Kosovo (980), Georgia (976) and Montenegro (909), which rounded out the top five.

Now an Israeli doctor has revealed a bombshell during a television interview. In the interview on August 5 with Israel’s Chanel 13, Dr Kobi Haviv, medical director of Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem, stated that the majority of coronavirus patients in an Israeli hospital are fully vaccinated, including those with severe disease.

Dr Haviv further specified that: “95% of the severe patients are vaccinated,” adding “85-90% of the hospitalizations are in fully vaccinated people” and the hospital is “opening more and more COVID wards.”

Jokes on you bro but you will need to address that with the lying fake Dr Fauci, who has you spun out. You should never worship nor listen to a stone cold liar, especially when your health is on the line. Far as my health, I run, so not too concerned. My kids are off limits to all of you possessed by this vaccine though. That case is closed.

Looks more and more like a pandemic of the vaccinated.

Lightly vaccinated Africa is doing far better than Israel (and most other more vaccinated nations).

Noyankee wrote:

Jokes on you bro but you will need to address that with the lying fake Dr Fauci, who has you spun out. You should never worship nor listen to a stone cold liar, especially when your health is on the line. Far as my health, I run, so not too concerned. My kids are off limits to all of you possessed by this vaccine though. That case is closed.

So refuse to address any data, change the subject, and spam post conspiracies?

This case is closed for sure :)

The Unkle wrote:

Looks more and more like a pandemic of the vaccinated.

Lightly vaccinated Africa is doing far better than Israel (and most other more vaccinated nations).

Shhhh. These folks don’t like stats like that. Not good for their soup.

Totally confused lay person wrote:

Miss Trump Yet? wrote:

The vaccinated are dropping like flies. Vaccine deaths being counted as covid deaths. You heard it here first.

Do you have any evidence to support this allegation? If vaccine deaths are counted as Covid deaths then that is complete & utter fraud and a whistleblower needs to come forward.

If they test postive for covid it is a covid death not an enhanced disease death. How many peoplehave died because they had covid and then took the shot? Those are labeled unvaccinated covid deaths and not vaccine related deaths.

I love to address the data. Gives me goosebumps but I’m a big picture guy, sticking with historical statistical analysis. The big one I’m looking at now is that the countries with the most vaccinations also have the highest percent of positive cases. That’s a 1 for 1 bro.