Finally...Unequivocal Proof That the Apollo Moon Landings Were Staged on Earth

Johnny Vohden wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

With millions worldwide, I saw the moon-landing "live" on television in 1969. It was not only one of the greatest scientific achievements of the 20th century but of all human history, that man was able to put foot on an alien world - another planet - and return.

It says much about the degeneration of this modern age that over 50 years on so many choose to construct false arguments for claiming this never happened and thereby reject one of humanity's greatest achievements.

By claiming the moon landings were faked the rest of history can also be rejected as fake - WW2 never really happened, Hiroshima was faked, as was the Holocaust - well, we've already been there - the Roman empire never existed, the Pyramids were never built, and indeed anything confirmed through established fact can be thrown in the dustbin. Nothing is true anymore - except what is randomly spouted and claimed on the internet that rejects everything science and history have taught us. We have truly built our own Tower of Babel, an outpouring of incomprehensible noise posturing as truth.

But like the Gadarene swine that went mad and threw themselves over a cliff we can see there are plenty assembled here determined to inflict upon themselves the same fate.

And then of course we have presidential candidates trying to erase history with book bans. Remember the scene in Schindler's List where Goeth tells the troops before liquidating the Krakow Ghetto;

"Today is history. Today will be remembered. Years from now the young will ask with wonder about this day. Today is history and you are part of it. Six hundred years ago, when elsewhere they were footing the blame for the Black Death, Casimir the Great - so called - told the Jews they could come to Krakow. They came. They trundled their belongings into the city. They settled. They took hold. They prospered in business, science, education, the arts. They came with nothing. And they flourished. For six centuries there has been a Jewish Krakow. By this evening those six centuries will be a rumor. They never happened. Today is history."

2600 bro wrote:

Kolsiv wrote:

Why so much. we’ve done it a half dozen times before, right. We know how to do it. Technology has advanced by leaps and bounds and gotten cheaper. We’re spitting satellites out into orbit all the time, right. Hell, I have 100,000 times the processing power of the Apollo mission in my cell phone. I could power millions of missions at the same time.

what are we waiting for? It’s been 18 years already! 😂

You don’t seem to be able answer questions but it’s ok. I’m still enjoying this.

Why did the Golden Gate Bridge cost $500M in current dollars but the new span of Bay Bridge bridge cost $8B in current dollars even though it was built 80 years later and only 25% longer than the GGB?

And wait the Golden Gate Bridge only took 4 years and the new Bay Bridge took 11 years??

We must have forgot how to build bridges? Or did we never know?

The scope of the new projects is much larger, the requirements are much more complex, so things requires A LOT more money and time these days.

You haven’t uncovered some fatal evidence. You’ve re-discovered a feature (bug) of the modern American economy. Nice work!

Kolsiv wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

You don’t seem to be able answer questions but it’s ok. I’m still enjoying this.

Why did the Golden Gate Bridge cost $500M in current dollars but the new span of Bay Bridge bridge cost $8B in current dollars even though it was built 80 years later and only 25% longer than the GGB?

And wait the Golden Gate Bridge only took 4 years and the new Bay Bridge took 11 years??

We must have forgot how to build bridges? Or did we never know?

The scope of the new projects is much larger, the requirements are much more complex, so things requires A LOT more money and time these days.

You haven’t uncovered some fatal evidence. You’ve re-discovered a feature (bug) of the modern American economy. Nice work!

Golden Gate Bridge, Empire State Building, mapping the ocean floor…you guys sure know how to go on a tangent.

2600 bro wrote:

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

I'm not saying I disagree with this at all. What I'm saying is for the sake of whatever side of the fence you are on, that the success or not of Artemis essentially ends the discussion. One of the key defenses to the legitimate question of "if it was possible 50 years ago how come we haven't been since" was simply "there was no need to - we did it then so we don't have to do it again" and this NASA project has now eliminated that and put them on the hook.

Do I have a slight double take moment when I hear that NASA are sending up the crash test dummies "seeking to learn how best to protect astronauts for Artemis II" () given that surely you know exactly how to do this because you've done it allegedly 7 times before? Yes of course I do. That makes little sense to me, I don't understand what you are trying to find out that must surely already know. But, as I said - we should stay open until this Artemis thing is either a success or abject failure and then I don't understand how there would be any questions anymore.

Link:www.nasa.gov/feature/purposeful-passen...

NASA is significantly more risk averse these days. The cover a lot more bases with safety. No one cared if the Gemini astronauts got back problems from G-forces during launch. These days they just care about way more and have to study things that werent even on the radar in prior days of manned spaceflight.

I do wish you'd respond to my criticism of bike-distance analogy, I think it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of spaceflight, and might help calibrate your beliefs more.