hemorrhoid wrote:
KB is an all-time great, but not the greatest of all time. A true GOAT has consistent performances.
With that said.... wow. 2:01 is mind-numbingly shpeedy
Ummm ever heard of cross country or track?
GTFO
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doot doot wrote:
hemorrhoid wrote:
KB is an all-time great, but not the greatest of all time. A true GOAT has consistent performances.
With that said.... wow. 2:01 is mind-numbingly shpeedy
Ummm ever heard of cross country or track?
GTFO
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Also don't forget he is wearing half tights now.
Hey Armstronglivs, why don’t you go out for a run and sweat out that rancorous negativity that probably a poor life is giving you?
Happy to see Bekele return to his best. I hope both he and Kipchoge are fit and ready for the Olympic showdown next year. It is amazing that this rivalry is still a hot topic 16 years after the 2003 WC 5000 meters!
oldmanbeks wrote:
Is Bekele taking some awesome new PED? This all seems suspicious to me.
No, NOP doesn't share their secrets.
How can he be the GOAT if he is the second-fastest?
However, the IAAF should now make it mandatory that Kipchoge quit the draft-assisted nonsense and go head to head vs Bekele in a fast flat marathon to settle things for good and all.
jamin wrote:
I go to Youtube this morning and see a thumbnail of Berlin Marathon 2019. I click on it and skip towards the men's finish. Then I said to myself, "Wow, this guy is flying. Wait a minute ... this guy kinda looks like Bekele .... is running again now?"
Hi Jamin!
wr chase pace wrote:
Kipchoge had nobody to run with and no specific time goal to beat to get even more out of himself. Bekele had pacers and then competitors to run with and to chase later on, and always the world record time to beat. And still came up short. Also the weather was warmer last year, so I would not say it was better.
This year, it was very humid, windy and there was drizzle after a few minutes of racing: the ground was wet. Last year was much better
Great performance nonetheless.
This is the best performance. On dry ground, that's a 2:1 flat, if not better.
You can debate the overall distance GOAT, but Kipchoge is certainly the marathon GOAT. I think Kipchoge would have beat Bekele if he would have been running today, especially with real competitors pushing/pulling him all the way through the race (which he did not have when he ran the WR last year).
Bad Wigins wrote:
How can he be the GOAT if he is the second-fastest?
However, the IAAF should now make it mandatory that Kipchoge quit the draft-assisted nonsense and go head to head vs Bekele in a fast flat marathon to settle things for good and all.
Bekele is the overall GOAT.
Kipchoge is still the marathon GOAT and will be for a long time.
Run And Let Run wrote:
Hey Armstronglivs, why don’t you go out for a run and sweat out that rancorous negativity that probably a poor life is giving you?
That's the problem with anti-doping; it's full of "rancorous negativity". They should just leave these fine people alone.
hemorrhoid wrote:
George213 wrote:
You realized of course he dominated the track for 6-7 years?
yOu ReaLiZeD oF cOUrSe he DomiNaTEd tHe TraCk foR 6-7 YeaRs
Bro I could take him in a 200
Actually laughed out loud at this reply. What does this even mean??? How does his current 200m ability as a marathoner define his level of greatness? 2/10
On a serious note, I’d have to go with him being the distance GOAT, but not the marathon GOAT, as someone above said.
CE wrote:
You can debate the overall distance GOAT,
No you can't. The GOAT just got GOATer today.
but Kipchoge is certainly the marathon GOAT. I think Kipchoge would have beat Bekele if he would have been running today, especially with real competitors pushing/pulling him all the way through the race (which he did not have when he ran the WR last year).
Read: in my fantasy land, the people I like do this, the people I don't do that... When will you people get tired of talking out of you bum? Your predictions being proved completely wrong does not make you pause for a second?
grox wrote:
wr chase pace wrote:
Kipchoge had nobody to run with and no specific time goal to beat to get even more out of himself. Bekele had pacers and then competitors to run with and to chase later on, and always the world record time to beat. And still came up short. Also the weather was warmer last year, so I would not say it was better.
This year, it was very humid, windy and there was drizzle after a few minutes of racing: the ground was wet. Last year was much better
Great performance nonetheless.
This is the best performance. On dry ground, that's a 2:1 flat, if not better.
Absolutely. I hope that some will realize this. Incredible performance today.
Wow, just wow.
Bravo, Kenenisa!
Strider-Man wrote:
Absolutely. I hope that some will realize this. Incredible performance today.
Yeah, I didn't watch the entire thing, so I'm not sure if all the little details were as smooth as Kipchoge's 2:01 last year. Did Bekele have to fetch his own drinks, or did he have someone holding them up like kipchoge's race last year? Things like that could have helped. But it sounds like he ran a smart race, in letting some guys go with their insane surges, then reeling them back in later on, etc.
Kipchoge had the advantage of "running" a 2:00.25 previously, so he truly believed and knew he could do it. Now Bekele knows he can.. it's just a matter of the right day with the right fitness. I sure hope he goes for it, rather than running the Olympics. It would be the perfect chance.. get some of his training buddies to help pace, no Kipchoge at Berlin 2020 (potentially), and hopefully find another 5~10seconds.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Eating My Humble Pie wrote:
Wow, I have to admit that I did not see this coming. Bekele had dropped out of so many marathons that it looked like he was just running for the appearance fee. Clearly not. Many congratulations to Bekele (and his loyal fans), amazing run, sorry he didn't get the WR.
Presumably Kipchoge will run at Tokyo 2020. Do you think Bekele will? Or will he spend the next 12 months preparing for another assault on the WR at Berlin next year?
Assuming they are both healthy and fit, it would be by far the best match-up in marathon history and similar to Ali-Frazier (the first fight). If Bekele doesn't run in Tokyo it would be like Coe or Ovett skipping Moscow to focus on WR's in the 1500/Mile. The best competing against each other is what makes sports great. I would be disgusted if one them skipped Tokyo.
If they ran against each other and both still in contention with a few kms to go, it will turn into a sit and kick affair, ala Kenny and kipsang a few years ago when KB ran his 2:03:0x and missed the WR by a few seconds
I usually stay up to watch the Berlin livestream, but decided to wait until this morning to see the results and I'm ecstatic about his time. Such an incredible runner and definitely the GOAT.
Honestly, I thought Bekele was done for good and got pretty hyped about his tempo before his 2:07. But he really proved me wrong, GOAT of distance running for sure.
inthepines wrote:
I usually stay up to watch the Berlin livestream, but decided to wait until this morning to see the results and I'm ecstatic about his time. Such an incredible runner and definitely the GOAT.
Me too. I DVRed the race, which aired on delay on the Oly Channel at 10:30CST, so I avoided the internet and LRC to avoid catching any news on the race. I’m glad I did