Shaky start by both Hughes and Degrasse. Degrasse got back under 10 which is big but props to Simbine for the win. Koike is now another Japanese man under 10 now. Hughes wasted a good pr chance in the prelims but still looks strong overall.
Shaky start by both Hughes and Degrasse. Degrasse got back under 10 which is big but props to Simbine for the win. Koike is now another Japanese man under 10 now. Hughes wasted a good pr chance in the prelims but still looks strong overall.
asssfarht wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
Warholm closes on the top two
Lol. What? Warholm is ahead of them or are you a typical delusional racist?
2018 was all Benjamin and samba. This year before today was similar. Last year samba was 6-0 in DL races over Warholm.
Work Commute Track Club wrote:
Brave of the interviewer to be so close to Langford after a bad race.
Bad race? I guess you don't realize he ran a pb.
His ran 1:44.97. HIs pb was 1:45.16. His sb was 1:45.87.
Yuki sub 10!!!
CLEAN
ASIAN
DOMINANCE
rojo, he's being sarcastic after Langford assaulted a track official earlier last month (front page news on LRC).
rojo wrote:
Work Commute Track Club wrote:
Brave of the interviewer to be so close to Langford after a bad race.
Bad race? I guess you don't realize he ran a pb.
His ran 1:44.97. HIs pb was 1:45.16. His sb was 1:45.87.
Muir has a very strong last lap. Maybe she can finally win a world medal this year.
KK coming from 4th to 2nd in the last lapon 3000m 3 weeks ago was encouraging for her, and she can certainly improve her PB on 1500m, but even if Hassan stick to the 5000-10000 double, it is hard to see her medal on 1500m in Doha against Kipyegon, Muir, Houlihan, Simpson, Chebet and G. Dibaba except if it is fast from the gun and she does not have to lead. Maybe the Ethiopians have an interest to make it a fast race though.
Stefanidi has got some fat there!
Was going to post about Jamie Webb as well. Over a second pb for Jamie (1.21 seconds). I wonder if many runners, or any have made that jump from low 1:45's to high 1:43's. On a side note Harun Abda the pace maker of this 800m has been running 1:46.81, or better since 2011 (pb of 1:45.55).
mooonshot wrote:
Let's check the data, as you've somehow made this about two countries (I'm Spanish, so I'm neutral), but you are incorrect. Australia is only doing better over 1500m at the moment -
1500m - Aussies
3:31.81, 3:35.10, 3:35.85
1500m - Americans
3:35.14, 3:35.27, 3:35.32
Totally agree with you, but FWIW, if you include the Mile times from Pre, Americans bump up a hair, per IAAF conversion:
Engels 3:51.6y = 3:34.6
Wynne 1500m = 3:35.14
Centro 3:52.26y = 3:35.22
ClaireHuxtable wrote:
Was going to post about Jamie Webb as well. Over a second pb for Jamie (1.21 seconds). I wonder if many runners, or any have made that jump from low 1:45's to high 1:43's. On a side note Harun Abda the pace maker of this 800m has been running 1:46.81, or better since 2011 (pb of 1:45.55).
He improved a lot last season and I guess big jumps like this are possible when you get thrown into a DL race possibly for the first time.
Kyle Langford will be very happy with his pb too. Coming back from injury this season and apparently dislocated his knee a couple of weeks ago.
I thought Charlie Grice was going to be in the 800m, don't know where he is running today.
GB has 9 out of the top 17 800m times in Europe now. Great shame that Max Burgin got injured again - I think he would be running in the European U20 final this weekend.
Aussiestatman wrote:
asssfarht wrote:
Lol. What? Warholm is ahead of them or are you a typical delusional racist?
2018 was all Benjamin and samba. This year before today was similar. Last year samba was 6-0 in DL races over Warholm.
So, Warholm has run 3 DLs this year, won all 3. Crushing the field in Stockholm with 47.80 something in cold weather and gusting wind, then crushing the field again for an European Record at Bislett. Conditions was not great that night either.. (Fairly cold and some wind), and then, today, he obliterated the field while improving on his European Record to just .34 secs behind the WR. Did you notice he touched the 5th hurdle significantly and stuttered quite a bit and it was not even perfect wind conditions this night either?
No, this year before today was not similar to last year.... Just no. (And btw even last year Warholm improved significantly even though he could not beat Samba, but the average distance between them last year were probably not more than 0.4 secs or so)
lessons from DL London:
1) Klosterhoffen another example of the gangly NOP skeleton wraith with horrible form
2) guard your hamstrings if you're trying to be a 1:40 800 guy
3) 100m heat/final structure in DL meets is as stupid as ever
4) Gebhriwet runs his 10000 meter pace, sprints to the win, but people still talk about Jakob's great 5000m future
5) The US still has no 9-lane tracks, I think. No major ones at least. Don't we have more money than Europe? They make us look pretty cheap.
GetOffYourHighHorse wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
2018 was all Benjamin and samba. This year before today was similar. Last year samba was 6-0 in DL races over Warholm.
So, Warholm has run 3 DLs this year, won all 3. Crushing the field in Stockholm with 47.80 something in cold weather and gusting wind, then crushing the field again for an European Record at Bislett. Conditions was not great that night either.. (Fairly cold and some wind), and then, today, he obliterated the field while improving on his European Record to just .34 secs behind the WR. Did you notice he touched the 5th hurdle significantly and stuttered quite a bit and it was not even perfect wind conditions this night either?
No, this year before today was not similar to last year.... Just no. (And btw even last year Warholm improved significantly even though he could not beat Samba, but the average distance between them last year were probably not more than 0.4 secs or so)
High horse here. In his wins this year, did he beat the other two? We will see the results when the three race off in both the DL final and first the semi at the worlds, then that final.
Halviking wrote:
elmorez wrote:
Do you think Jakob could get a US scholarship somewhere?!
The way NCAA is organized seems strange from a Europe club sports point of view.
Why give NCAA all the rights, all the money, all the power and get nothing back?
Education is free in Norway anyway.
Nothing is free. Someone is paying for it.
Bad Wigins wrote:
lessons from DL London:
1) Klosterhoffen another example of the gangly NOP skeleton wraith with horrible form
2) guard your hamstrings if you're trying to be a 1:40 800 guy
3) 100m heat/final structure in DL meets is as stupid as ever
4) Gebhriwet runs his 10000 meter pace, sprints to the win, but people still talk about Jakob's great 5000m future
5) The US still has no 9-lane tracks, I think. No major ones at least. Don't we have more money than Europe? They make us look pretty cheap.
Holding out for the day when you actually make a positive comment about something. Are you really as miserable as your letsrun comments appear, or is this just a way to somewhat anonymously get rid of pent up angst and anger? I've heard your interviews. You certainly don't sound like an @sshole, so what changes here with you?
Aussiestatman wrote:
GetOffYourHighHorse wrote:
So, Warholm has run 3 DLs this year, won all 3. Crushing the field in Stockholm with 47.80 something in cold weather and gusting wind, then crushing the field again for an European Record at Bislett. Conditions was not great that night either.. (Fairly cold and some wind), and then, today, he obliterated the field while improving on his European Record to just .34 secs behind the WR. Did you notice he touched the 5th hurdle significantly and stuttered quite a bit and it was not even perfect wind conditions this night either?
No, this year before today was not similar to last year.... Just no. (And btw even last year Warholm improved significantly even though he could not beat Samba, but the average distance between them last year were probably not more than 0.4 secs or so)
High horse here. In his wins this year, did he beat the other two? We will see the results when the three race off in both the DL final and first the semi at the worlds, then that final.
You obviously know as well as me that they haven't met this year.. (Samba pulled out of one of the meets because of his thigh injury was it?) That does not change the fact that the situation this year, even prior to London, is not similar to last year. I might ad that Samba has beaten Warholm 0 times this year too. Quite a significant difference from last year wouldn't you say?
But yeah, DL final and WCH will give us the answers. Who would have imagined 2 years ago that come Doha 400m Hurdles would be one of the most anticipated events?
Now people start speculating if all 3 can threaten the WR there... Crazy stuff and very good for athletics.
Bad Wigins wrote:
lessons from DL London:
4) Gebhriwet, the best Ethiopian 5,000/10,000 runner barely edges out an 18 year old Jakob, giving it all he has, while Jakob is still rounding into form. People rightfully praise the 18 year old Jakob for a spectacular race and realize he likely has a much brighter future than 38 year old Gebrihwet.
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HiHaaah! wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
High horse here. In his wins this year, did he beat the other two? We will see the results when the three race off in both the DL final and first the semi at the worlds, then that final.
You obviously know as well as me that they haven't met this year.. (Samba pulled out of one of the meets because of his thigh injury was it?) That does not change the fact that the situation this year, even prior to London, is not similar to last year. I might ad that Samba has beaten Warholm 0 times this year too. Quite a significant difference from last year wouldn't you say?
But yeah, DL final and WCH will give us the answers. Who would have imagined 2 years ago that come Doha 400m Hurdles would be one of the most anticipated events?
Now people start speculating if all 3 can threaten the WR there... Crazy stuff and very good for athletics.
Why did you think I was racist?
Aussiestatman wrote:
John Wesley Harding wrote:
I know what you mean regarding past years, but I think this year’s MD/distance races are plenty intriguing.
Men’s 800 has 5 of the top 10 in the world right now IMO (Amos, Rotich, Kinyamal, Korir, Tuwei) plus the Flying Poles and Vazquez, who’s running well. It has the same pacer and top 2 finishers as last week in Monaco, when Amos broke 1:42 and Rotich moved to #15 AT. I’ll be looking to see if Korir can improve on his lackluster form.
Women’s 800 (Non-DL) should be Natoya Goule all the way.
Men’s mile (Non-DL) has at least 3 of the top 10 in the world (Tefera, Grice, and F. Ingebrigtsen) + V. Kibet, Gregson, Simotwo, Ramsden and perhaps most intriguingly, Kerr. Hometown hero Grice or Ingebrigtsen are probably favored, but don’t be surprised if Tefera gets his first win of the outdoor season—he was in 2nd place late at Pre and Lausanne (3:31.39) before fading in the stretch and his fitness seems to be improving.
Women’s 1500 is absolutely stacked: Arafi, Stafford, Embaye, Kipyegon, Klosterhalfen, Muir, Nanyondo, Tsegay and a few others who could break 4 if they’re in PB form. Kipyegon or Muir are favored but I’m interested to see what Klosterhalfen does in her first top-class 1500 of the year.
Men’s 5,000 (non-DL) will be fascinating, with Rhonex Kipruto, Jakub Ingebrigtsen, Morgan McDonald, Gebrhiwet, Kimeli, McSweyn, Tanui, Butchart, Crippa, & several of the other top Brits and Aussies. Very curious to see if Rhonex has the speed to go well under 13 some day, and how Jakub and McDonald will fare. I think smart money’s on the proven 5k ace Gebrhiwet in this one.
Women’s 5,000 features Hassan, who’s on a roll with 8:18 & 4:12y, Obiri, Gidey, Kipkemboi, Kipkirui, McColgan, Rengeruk, Weightman, and Tirop. Hassan seems like the biggest threat to the WR since Ayana a few years back, but was outkicked by Kipkemboi in her one 5,000 this season. Keep an eye out for Letsenbet Gidey, only 21 years old, she ran 14:23 last year and made the 2019 Pre Classic 3k the great race it was by pushing the pace once the pacers had dropped.
All in all I’m excited for this meet.
I am with you, chief. Gidey may be backing up from tonight in Hengelo. I always like Kipkirui at any distance from this up to a half.
Salpeter is in, this changes everything for me
Aussiestatman wrote:
Aussiestatman wrote:
I am with you, chief. Gidey may be backing up from tonight in Hengelo. I always like Kipkirui at any distance from this up to a half.
Salpeter is in, this changes everything for me
There is no doubt in my mind that she takes 25 sec off her best here, but will that be enough to put her in the mix. Class field.