Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Cliffs notes -
Kipchoge beat the two EPO Goats (El G and Bekele) as an '18 year old', peaked on the track at 19 when EPO testing started to become available, and went into sharp decline when the ABP was introduced, failing even to make the Kenyan team. He then decides in his 30's to try his hand at the Marathon, which he quickly becomes the GOAT in, running only twice a year, spending most of his year in a country where there is no WADA lab in the entire continent (until last November) and thus almost impossible to form an ABP of him.
Now that WADA has a lab in Nairobi, within months the first big name Kenyan marathoner is busted as a result - the world record holder for the half-marathoner. A week before that, another Kenyan was busted as a result seemingly of the improved ability to form ABPs of Kenyan runners - and it just so happens that that guy (Cyrus Rutto) has the same coach as Kipchoge (Patrick Sang).
Yet anyone who thinks Kipchoge is any more likely to be doped than Callum Hawkins in 7th place is 'naive'.
Yeah, but not as naive as those who still don't realize this place is riddled with Putin trolls, Italian agents, and various others with a 'they all dope so let them get on with it' agenda.
Cliff notes of your Cliff notes-
He's a black african who can destroy any white runner that ever lived so.....he HAS to be dirty!
What so unbelievably absurd and inconsistent and hilarious about your views Coevett is this (I know this is so obvious is barely deserves repeating, but here goes)- All of these incredible performances by East Africans over the years in distance running, or sprint performances by black Americans or Jamaicans, you are absolutely sure are due to doping. Every....single...one of them. Yet, as soon as one white runner comes along who can challenge these incredibly doped (in your mind) athletes, and beat some or even all of them, suddenly you are the true believer, the believer in all that is good and pure in sport, and in how one in a million genes combined with superior training can make "anything possible!" (cue the Rocky theme). So, so funny. And you 100% know this is true. You've already shown this countless times. A sampling-
Look at Coe and his 1:41. How is it possible, if PED's are so prevalent in all East African and Eastern Bloc nations, and that they make such a HUGE difference in performance, that in FORTY YEARS (nearly) time, despite improvements in tracks and shoes (and we now see what a difference that can make), and huge influx in participation by East African nations, with lots of $ on the line, that only TWO runners have able to beat this clean, honest fellow's time. How?? Oh right, Coe was unique, his Dad trained him properly, blah, blah. No. Your REAL answer: strip away the drugs, and whites are just better. At Everything. WHITE POWER!
How about your pedo crush, Jakob? Again, if sooooo many East Africans are age cheating, drug cheating, and doing every other form of cheating know to man, and willing to push their drug use to absolute limits (Risking death) for glory and so they can help their families escape poverty (the view that people like you push), and combining this with running in the perfect environment, and running to school from age 2, etc, etc, etc, then HOW is this young, honest white lad able to come along, DRUG FREE, and do it the "old fashioned" way (talent, hard work), and run faster than ALL those other doped athletes did at the same age (NO ONE is faster at 17, only a couple even faster at 18/19 than Jakob's 17 year old time), who, were actually probably over 20 years old when they set their "junior" times, and Jakob was only 17!! HOW?? Hell, Jakob has run faster at 17 than Haile and Bekele did in their entire lives in the 1500! And sure you will try some argument like, "oh they were distance runners, Jakob is a miler," but according to Jakob's own Dad, he has "no foot speed" and is a very high mileage guy. His best event might be 5000. So he is hardly a "pure miler." And you absolutely know that if he runs 3:26 some day, you will 100% buy it as an honest effort. You know this. But El G and Lagat doing 3:26? Impossible!
And finally, we now have some white HS'r from Texas running sub 10 in the 100 meters, faster than nearly any 18 y.o. athletes have ever run. All the doped Americans, allll the doped Jamaicans (and we know, according to "experts" like yourself, they all start doping young), virtually none could run as fast as him. But since he's white..... let me guess, it's gotta be on the up and up, right? Right.
Either your "virtually every top athlete (and they, the VERY top ones, are virtually all non-white/ africans) is on PED's, and PED's make a huuuuuge difference/these are all 'science fiction' times/performances" is incorrect, or.....
Your white heroes like Coe, and Jakob and others are/were doped to the max too.
Or you are an extreme white power clown.
Take your pick. Because you can't doubt every great African/black runner, and believe such performances are only possible with PED's, and then turn around and celebrate performances by white athletes that challenge those very same "doped/impossible" runners/performances.
You've backed yourself into a corner. Take your pick.
Notice how Coevett has no response here once he is presented with facts about his wild opinions.......