do'h, didn't read the final page, I see ppl finally addressed this in greater depth. Would still be great if D Katz would be willing to chime in, if he's reading this thread, as I think he'd have a better grasp of this than most of us.
do'h, didn't read the final page, I see ppl finally addressed this in greater depth. Would still be great if D Katz would be willing to chime in, if he's reading this thread, as I think he'd have a better grasp of this than most of us.
The IAAF website has him at 1:04:00 which means that it was 1:03:59:something and rounded up.
His chip time was 1:03:58. Gun time was 1:04
He actually ran 1:03:58.
Did they drug test at Western States 100 this year when he broke the record?
I know they did dope test the year Walmsley DNFed there last year.
They also drug test at UTMB. And IAAF world 100km on the roads.
1:04:00 half mary of course a 13:52 5km track runner should be able to do without any crazy training and recovery so that is not much of a surprise.
Eric Senseman just owned all of you on this board with the article below....So Eric, what is your (unregistered?) screen name on here?
http://citiusmag.com/jim-walmsley-64-minutes-houston-half-marathon/
Eric Senseman should check his facts when writing the statement : "Walmsley hadn’t raced a road half marathon since high school." Jim ran two half marathon races between 2013-2014 in 1:09 and 1:08 according to IAAF. He wasn't in high school then now was he?
But maybe right before or after he got discharged from Air Force for cheating on a test? Or around the time he got a DUI?
Max King got 12th place at the 2016 Olympic Trials Marathon AFTER winning IAAF World 100km ultras and countless others. He has a 1:03:08 half marathon to boot.
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
Eric Senseman just owned all of you on this board with the article below....So Eric, what is your (unregistered?) screen name on here?
http://citiusmag.com/jim-walmsley-64-minutes-houston-half-marathon/
Anyone else feel like Senseman has to take on the role of defender of Walmsley to make up for the fact that he's the slowest in his training group? What is this Citius? a running blog for the Millenial Hipster?
One other thing; that "award" Jim's won 3 TIMES, whether deserved or not, is kind of hypocritical. It considers European results, but doesn't nominate or award Athletes outside of North America. So the article should correctly read "North American Ultrarunner of the Year"
It's okay though. I'm pretty sure Killian Jornet is happy to give Jim that win, considering it's largely irrelevant outside of a Flagstaff coffee shop.
I like Jim. He seems like a pretty normal guy in his position. I hate his worshippers.
chokonino cowboy wrote:
I like Jim. He seems like a pretty normal guy in his position. I hate his worshippers.
I totally agree with that.
Senseman wrote:
No one has successfully dominated the sport of ultrarunning and then—and this is the important part—run competitive times on the road. There is no example of that sequence of events in the sport of running, save for one.
Eric Senseman is one of the Walmsley fanboys I don't like.
I don't see that Walmsley is dominating the sport of ultrarunning. He won WS100 with a course record. A race which favors Americans and has not many foreign top athletes in the mix because it's almost impossible to get one of the 396 starting tickets. Walmsley is not dominating anything he just won one big US race, that's all.
In the bigger picture this 1:04 half marathon will not help him to get better in ultrarunning. It might get him more media attention from some online magazine writers like Senseman or Alex Kurt who worship him. And Hoka is happy to have the brand being associated with road racing.
ya'll acting like an ultra runner didn't just run 1:04 & OTQ, ya'll tripping and hating for no reason
"There’s no reason to think that Walmsley’s speed or talent have never been seen in the sport of ultrarunning. There’s no reason to think he has the speed or talent to make an Olympic team. But there is very good reason to give him a great deal of respect, for he has accomplished an order of events that the running world had never before seen. Keep in mind that prior to Sunday in Houston, Walmsley hadn’t raced a road half marathon since high school. He hadn’t raced on the track since 2012. He’s still never raced a road marathon. Instead, he terrorized the sport of ultrarunning with complete dominance from the 50K to 100-mile distances. Only then, after he was one of the best ultrarunners in the world, if not the best, for years, did he race a shorter distance on the road and run a competitive time.
To paraphrase a recent tweet from one of my favorite Twitter trolls: You don’t have to cheer on Walmsley for his successes, but if you’re actively cheering against him, you might be a douchebag. To make the point slightly differently in my own words: you don’t have to be impressed by Walmsley’s 64-minute half marathon, but you should care about the way he did it, and you should respect him for it, because it was groundbreaking." (Citius article)
/////
Did the poster even read the entire article on Citius? This sounds pretty damn reasonable to me. Nobody is saying he's the best road runner or whatever but people love to hate on here. Can't we just leave it as that was pretty cool that an ultra guy hit the OTQ for the half (the harder standard)? The article also mentions Max King and that Jim isn't the first to do this but it's still a great accomplishment and it'll be cool to see how he does on a hilly course with wide open spots on the team, especially if he takes some time to focus on the race.
Talking is not an effective way of belittling someone's achievement. A better way is doing it yourself, and demonstrate how easy it is.
FactChecker1 wrote:
But maybe right before or after he got discharged from Air Force for cheating on a test? Or around the time he got a DUI?
Source?
ayyyyyyy wrote:
ya'll acting like an ultra runner didn't just run 1:04 & OTQ, ya'll tripping and hating for no reason
And you're acting like he is the greatest athlete in the world. Keep it in perspective. He was 27th overall, the 12th place US runner in this race, about the 30th fastest at that distance in the US in the past 12 months and about 600th in the world over the past 12 months. The delusion you live in is you think that none of the 600 people faster than him in the world are somehow incapable of running faster than him in an ultra. They don't because none of them care. Ultras are a niche sport with little competition. Is he faster than a lot of people running ultras? Yes, but that isn't saying much, as East Africans and top level Americans are basically absent from the competitions. Come on, where is the Chase Weaverling thread or the Mario Pacay thread? Be happy with your niche. Could he pull a Trent Briney and make it interesting? Maybe, but so could the other 30 guys ahead of him. You will have to wait until leap day 2020 to find out, way down yonder on the Chattahoochee.
why exactly did he run the half to chase the b-standard, when he could have had a much simpler task by getting the a-standard in the exact same race?
and why do you all think he has no chance in the trials? a 1:04 half puts him at 2:14. as he's an ultrarunner and also the best at ultrarunning in the world, he probably has a better performance the longer the distance... that makes a 2:13 realistic and would have placed him 4th in the 2016 trials.
and if not top 3 then at least top 10, 10th place in 2016 was 2:16:25... no way he can't run that. remember, the shorter the distance, the worse he performance. the exact opposite to 99,9% on this board.
https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/a20861340/jim-walmsleys-long-trail-to-recovery/azza wrote:
FactChecker1 wrote:
But maybe right before or after he got discharged from Air Force for cheating on a test? Or around the time he got a DUI?
Source?
I am not belittling Jim's achievements. He is a very good runner like many others are.
Ann Trason won Western States FOURTEEN times and made the trails a couple of times as well.
Learn some running history Eric Senseman before you write BS like this article.
walmsbalms wrote:
why exactly did he run the half to chase the b-standard, when he could have had a much simpler task by getting the a-standard in the exact same race?
and why do you all think he has no chance in the trials? a 1:04 half puts him at 2:14. as he's an ultrarunner and also the best at ultrarunning in the world, he probably has a better performance the longer the distance... that makes a 2:13 realistic and would have placed him 4th in the 2016 trials.
You can't just take Jim W. potential Marathon time of 2:13+ and transfer it to a trails competition. You compare apple and oranges here.
No scholarship limits anymore! (NCAA Track and Field inequality is going to get way worse, right?)
2024 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion
Matt Fox/SweatElite harasses one of his clients after they called him out
I’m a guy. I see a female psychiatrist. I’m developing feelings for her and confused.