metang1 wrote:
Wow, what a terrible clickbait headline. I don't expect any journalism standards from Letsrun but you guys only revealed 2 things:
Jack & Sh!t.
Bingo. EOT.
metang1 wrote:
Wow, what a terrible clickbait headline. I don't expect any journalism standards from Letsrun but you guys only revealed 2 things:
Jack & Sh!t.
Bingo. EOT.
Enjoy The Runs wrote:
metang1 wrote:
Wow, what a terrible clickbait headline. I don't expect any journalism standards from Letsrun but you guys only revealed 2 things:
Jack & Sh!t.
Bingo. EOT.
They also revealed that they are fools.
I'm most impressed with the agent that didn't participate-- the description of all the reasons that BS numbers are floating out there and then get parroted should give anyone pause before they think this is any sort of real data.
The only good thing to come out of this exercise (it's not a study, and nothing is "unveiled") is that it highlights the secretive nature of the sport, which ultimately hurts athletes who don't have hard data to go into negotiations with. This is an issue in many fields, but seems particularly bad here.
Lastly-- can't help but notice that LR readers consistently guessed female athletes made far less than the agent's guesses, but were pretty close on the men-- best case explanation is that they think the system is stacked against the women; worst case explanation is that they are putting out salaries that they think reflect their worth.
Turn lefting wrote:
I wouldn’t be surprised if most every salary average is nearly half as much. There is hardly any money in this sport. People are enamored with free equipment.
This.
Half the fields in USATF finals do not make a living stipend. Part of a group that covers those expenses, gear and travel budget.
Any comparison to what Ultra Runners make? Like does Walmsley make more than say Cragg?
I wonder how much in student loans the national level pros are carrying ?
Alexa made that money back for Nike, the year she signed it. Every middle school, high school and college kid in America knew her name and that she signed with Nike. This sport is so under paid that we think 160,000 is too much.
Enjoy The Runs wrote:
metang1 wrote:
Wow, what a terrible clickbait headline. I don't expect any journalism standards from Letsrun but you guys only revealed 2 things:
Jack & Sh!t.
Bingo. EOT.
Thread is over, people. No more comments needed.
Any comments on Ed Ches's salary? It seems low to me.
Putting aside the hand-wringing about the margin of error on these estimates, it would be interesting to estimate the likelihood of a runner ever earning enough money to call running a career. I'm guessing that an average of about one American distance runner per year will ever get a single contract comparable to what a first-year engineering graduate makes. Maybe two or three? At any rate, it's clearly a tiny fraction of one percent of all NCAA competitors, most of whom were very good high school runners.
So kids, study hard. Running is not a career! If you try to make it one, you have less than a 1-in-1000 chance of hitting the jackpot and spending a few years as a human advertisement for a shoe company.
webby wrote:
Putting aside the hand-wringing about the margin of error on these estimates, it would be interesting to estimate the likelihood of a runner ever earning enough money to call running a career. I'm guessing that an average of about one American distance runner per year will ever get a single contract comparable to what a first-year engineering graduate makes. Maybe two or three? At any rate, it's clearly a tiny fraction of one percent of all NCAA competitors, most of whom were very good high school runners.
So kids, study hard. Running is not a career! If you try to make it one, you have less than a 1-in-1000 chance of hitting the jackpot and spending a few years as a human advertisement for a shoe company.
best takeaway from study is that unless you are showing potential to be an olympic medalist you will be looking at about what a running store employee makes...... think about that... you are a 13:10 5k runner and all that works goes into it and you may walk away with 30k a year for 3 to 5 years and then have to start a career while being about 10 years behind your peers.