Wait, you mean there's no unified, consensus opinion from every single visitor to this board? Thanks for that #hottake, shecky.
Wait, you mean there's no unified, consensus opinion from every single visitor to this board? Thanks for that #hottake, shecky.
This guy ran 27:54 in college. Shouldn't we be happy he's running hard high end aerobic workouts instead of still trying to make teams on the track? Whether Stinson is the next thing in US marathoning or not I am happy to see someone who is young and talented trying at the marathon. Most other talented Americans debut at the marathon just to get a paycheck for a few more years after their careers are already over. Hence why 2:12 has become good in the US
Parker is still recovering from this workout as I type this.
Agree with all you say, kids who weren't top 5 in any NCAA championship should move up ASAP after graduation. He ran his first marathon like a freshman and he has the "marathon whisperer" for his coach. Hope he starts knocking out a couple of marathons per year going forward to aid his learning process.
Time to revive this thread given the race has now happened. The only shine you can put on today's 2:14:29 is he finished ahead of Tyler McCandless this time.
Okay, and he improved his PR some and took it to where he probably should have debuted at a minimum. I'm a Stinson fan, I honestly am. Just not a fan of all the goofball low-rent coaches in Boulder.
Runningart2004 wrote:
Everyone here is overreacting.
It doesn’t take a month to recover from a long hard run. Hell, he could have run an entire marathon and still be recovered in time.
Alan
It does if one keeps ‘overreaching’. Big workouts do not matter as much as having legs and workouts that feel good.
I forgot who said it, but there was a coach who said that 80% of a coaches job is to hold back the athlete and prevent over training. Well the Hansons aren't doing that job well.
How are the Hansons relevant in this discussion??
Yep, saw this coming. No shocker here. What did I say again? 2:14-2:17?
Brad being Brad wrote:
pnw_runner wrote:
Something to keep in mind though is that the 40 km run Kipchoge did you're referring to was done in 2h15m, which is 5:25/mile pace (or a 2:22 marathon), whereas his marathon pace in Berlin was 4:42/mile. Substantially slower than his marathon pace, even accounting for the altitude.
Someone like Parker running 35 km at 5:12/mile is running very close to his marathon pace (actually faster pace than his 2:18 from CIM, but he blew up and thus I don't think it's accurate to consider him capable of only 2:18), plus the run was at altitude.
My point is that this is a lot more of a stressful workout than Kipchoge's 40 km run, even if we don't take into account Kipchoge's many years of running that have given him a tremendous base (not to mention he's run almost 2 hours flat).
All of that said, I hope Parker does well in Chicago and races as fast as many of us wish he does.
This right here. Parker thinks he's doing a "workout" at a pace slower than marathon pace, but in fact he just did 35k at marathon pace or faster. His best performance of this block of training might have been this workout.
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