1. Observe the location of a constellation in the sky from the Atlantic Coast.
2. Simultaneously observe the location of the same constellation on the West Coast.
They will be in different locations due to the curvature of the earth. If the earth was flat like a piece of cardboard and rotating, the constellations would appear in exactly the same location in the sky at the same time everywhere on earth.
The reason is that the stars are so far away, there would be no parallax effect.
Well $10k isn't enough to buy a private citizen's way onto a space shuttle, which is the only thing that could get Dumbay to believe that the earth is spherical (and even then he still might not admit it), so he's going to have to up the reward.
The earth is a plane wrote:
Well I wish we could but the world government prevents people from exploring Antarctica.
Then how do you explain people going to the South Pole? What about commercial airliners that fly ‘over’ Antarctica as the most direct route between places like Australia and South Africa?
Also, how is the world government preventing people from exploring? If there are guards, they are sealing a border that is roughy 48,000 miles long. The U.S. - Mexico border is just under 2,000 miles and we can’t even control that.
How far inland does someone need to get before they encounter an ice wall?
fisky wrote:
1. Observe the location of a constellation in the sky from the Atlantic Coast.
2. Simultaneously observe the location of the same constellation on the West Coast.
They will be in different locations due to the curvature of the earth. If the earth was flat like a piece of cardboard and rotating, the constellations would appear in exactly the same location in the sky at the same time everywhere on earth.
The reason is that the stars are so far away, there would be no parallax effect.
0/10 ?It appears exactly the same to me. ?
If the Earth was flat the Polar Bears would have walked around the ice wall to Antarctica by now. Eskimos too.
flat earthers are mainly religious folks and/or anti-government types. although having said that, I would bet 40% of round earth believers also aren't critical thinkers enough to know why for themselves. its like anything slightly complicated or otherworldly you either trust those smarter than you or figure it out yourself. If we had more people figure things out for themselves this world wouldn't be in such a mess
Call me crazy, but I think the notable flat-earthers have to be super elaborate trolls. I'm sure there are some dense folk willing to believe them, but the people going through all this effort to "prove the Earth is flat" surely have enough smarts to know they are full of sh1t.
That's how it started. Flat Earthness was just a big gag.
But then you have to realize how almost half of this country is. Then realize a good chunk of them will hop onto anything, in order to feel smarter than everyone else. Right now, it happens to be flat earth. I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes part of the next presidential campaign.
Why doesn't everywhere appear like Kansas?
Oh Please wrote:
Call me crazy, but I think the notable flat-earthers have to be super elaborate trolls. I'm sure there are some dense folk willing to believe them, but the people going through all this effort to "prove the Earth is flat" surely have enough smarts to know they are full of sh1t.
Yes, I've no doubt that Eric Dubay, much like Alex Jones, doesn't believe most of the stuff that spews from his mouth.
Leopard Seal wrote:
If the Earth was flat the Polar Bears would have walked around the ice wall to Antarctica by now. Eskimos too.
They can't, the penguins would kill and eat them. They can only inhabit penguin-free ice.
People have no idea how dangerous a colony of 1,000 bloodthirsty penguins can be.
Legit question wrote:
The horizon is ALWAYS at eye level which is only possible on a flat plane- where is the curvature?
I'm curious about this often repeated statement. Has this been verified by any flat-earther at high altitudes, and confirmed that it indeed ALWAYS rises to eye level?
On a ball earth with a large radius, we can predict the expected "dip angle" of the horizon as a function of altitude. The horizon would appear to rise 1:1 with eye level, at low altitudes, but at higher altitudes, a ball model predicts that the horizon would rise at a slower and slower rate than eye-level.
Al-Biruni performed an easy experiment more than 1000 years ago, that anyone can repeat, to settle the question, using their own eyes, and not NASA lies.
He stood on a high mountain of a known height, and measured the "dip angle" of the horizon, from eye-level. We can chose any model we want and predict the outcome:
- Flat earth model: If the horizon is ALWAYS at eye level, then the "dip angle" would ALWAYS be measured as 0 degrees, regardless of altitude, and the radius of the earth would be infinite, i.e. this would PROVE the earth is flat.
- Ball earth model: If the horizon is visibly BELOW eye level, then the "dip angle" from eye-level would be measurable. Any non-zero angle would DISPROVE that the earth is flat, and basic trigonometry would give us the means to calculate the radius of the earth, from the height of the mountain.
When Al-Biruni did this experiment, he came up with an estimate of 6335.725 km, a value which confirmed Eratosthenes' measure some 1200 years earlier, with sticks and shadows. Al-Biruni's measure was less than 1% error of the accepted measure today.
FFF wrote:
That's how it started. Flat Earthness was just a big gag.
But then you have to realize how almost half of this country is. Then realize a good chunk of them will hop onto anything, in order to feel smarter than everyone else. Right now, it happens to be flat earth. I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes part of the next inpresidential campaign.
Here's the deal: I'm skeptical that the Earth is round and I'm open to the idea that the Earth is flat. Seeing is believing and the only way to find for sure is to go into space. But NASA won't send any of us round Earth skeptics into space. So, like good little robots we have to take NASA's word for it and not question the hierarchy of this nation.
https://youtu.be/DPRJzNc876ALegit question wrote:
duh2 wrote:
I see this and much else of flat earth idiocy has already been discussed:
https://www.quora.com/How-do-flat-earthers-explain-night-and-day?share=1How about you explain the globe without resorting to insults? You can't. Therefore, you lose.
A lighthouse sends a beam of light up to 40 miles out to sea. This could only happen on a flat ocean. If the ocean curved, the light would be hidden behind a hill of water.
NO PART OF A CIRCLE CAN BE FLAT. FACT. Train tracks are manufactured straight and laid flat and do not curve. Explain how this works on a ball.
If earth were a ball 25K miles in circumference, we would see 8” per mile squared curvature. But we never do because earth is flat.
The most sophisticated airplane leveling system is based on the gyroscope. It maintains a rigid axis relative to the ground or horizon. It could not work if the earth were curved or spinning.
We never landed on the Moon and the Earth is flat & stationary.
I can't believe you fell for the old "train tracks are manufactured straight" myth! Do you think you have proof of straight train tracks?
See across the Ocean wrote:
Why doesn't everywhere appear like Kansas?
What's the matter with Kansas?
Thomas Frank wrote:
See across the Ocean wrote:
Why doesn't everywhere appear like Kansas?
What's the matter with Kansas?
It seems even flatter than the rest of the perfectly flat world.
Oh Please wrote:
Call me crazy, but I think the notable flat-earthers have to be super elaborate trolls. I'm sure there are some dense folk willing to believe them, but the people going through all this effort to "prove the Earth is flat" surely have enough smarts to know they are full of sh1t.
No, they really believe it. But is it any crazier than believing that Jesus was the messiah who can save us all? Not really.
duh2 wrote:Tell me why half the world is in day and half is in night, if all countries are on a flat plane. Go on.
The problem with asking this question is the kind of morans who claim they believe the earth is flat can claim to believe all sorts of ridiculous things in defence of their one ridiculous claim.
They could just doubt half of the world is in day when the other half is night. Maybe when you flew across the world, everyone lied about what time it is! Maybe when you watch a supposedly live event from the other side of the world in the middle of the night, it was actually filmed the previous day!
It would be fun to see Bekele's reaction to them flat earther's. He must be laughing at them and think there crazy.
