at this race: out in 51.5 - 52 flat, back in 55 flat - 55.5 = 1:46.5 - 1:47.5.
if he focused on the event: hard to say without knowing what he can do for 400m. If he's a 48.5 - 49 guy for 400m, I think he'd be capable of breaking 1:45 with a lot of 800m specific work, but I can't see any reason why he'd ever actually do that work.
Come on mayne wrote:
oatmeal + water wrote:pretty sure if andres arroyo can go under 1:48 then galen rupp can AT LEAST run 1:48. not saying rupp will run 1:45, but 1:47 is very realistic.
For his rustbuster? I doubt it. 1:48 would be great, anything under 1:50 would be solid.
Looks like Wheating wants in, too.
https://twitter.com/AndrewWheating/status/329695739213139968
My money is on Wheating.
ventolin, based off of his mile, how fast do you think he could manage at 400? 48? 49? 50? I'd say 48 mid, based off of closing speed and strength.
Anyone else feel this is a really bad idea for a top 5k/10k guy? Flat our 800 could pull a muscle, tweek a hammy... What will this gain him? I can see an early season 15oom, but 800m seems dangerous. Don't see the Africans, euros doing this? Thoughts?
This is what I was trying to get at. If he does these kinds of runs and then fails to medal at 5k or 10k by the end of the year, he will look very silly.
Salazar continues to be very focused on Rupp's sprint mechanics, but of course the point of all that isn't to become a sprinter, it's to be able to maintain good form when trying to hit top speed at the end of a distance race.
I'm sure Rupp is coming into this 800m with a bunch of form keys to think about over the last 100m, when he'll be trying to hit top speed in a fatigued state. He will then get a chance to see which keys he executed properly and which he didn't when he and Salazar review video after.
You could try to do something similar in a workout, but racing an 800m seems like a sensible way to go about it.
Why don't other 5000-10000m guys try dropping into 800s from time to time? No idea, but they may start if 2013 goes as well for AlSal's guys as 2012 did.
so the flotrack workout in feb. of last year where he did some thing like 10x200 in 26-27 after a mile repeat session was a bad idea? that was multiple reps at near the pace he'll run 800 in...omg how did he do it without blowing something out?!? he running an 800, not the 100m. it's a pace he touches regularly in training. and last time i checked, all but one of those africans & euros were behind rupp in a pretty important 10K race last year, so imma go out on a limb and say rupp/alsal know what they are doing. and don't care if people think what they are doing is 'strange' or 'a bad idea'. they got the hardware yo. rudisha is running the 400 this weekend btw.
218er wrote:
Anyone else feel this is a really bad idea for a top 5k/10k guy? Flat our 800 could pull a muscle, tweek a hammy... What will this gain him? I can see an early season 15oom, but 800m seems dangerous. Don't see the Africans, euros doing this? Thoughts?
218er wrote:
Anyone else feel this is a really bad idea for a top 5k/10k guy? Flat our 800 could pull a muscle, tweek a hammy... What will this gain him? I can see an early season 15oom, but 800m seems dangerous. Don't see the Africans, euros doing this? Thoughts?
Seeing how he beat a bunch of Africans and Euros at the Olympics, maybe they should be paying attention to what Rupp is doing.
many of you have failed to recognize rupp's physical transformation in the last two years. the guy is officially a beast. if he can close a 5k in 52, NO QUESTION he can hit 147.
a friend of mine at usc couldnt break 355 in the 1500 or 49.5 in the 400 but ran 148.6...this guy had guts and work ethic but he looked like (rightly so) a novice next to rupp. saladbar has truly unlocked a new kind of speed potential in rupp. he just isnt the same (149-154) runner anymore.
come to think of it, i cant think of a single 350 miler (indoors or out) who couldnt break 148
Anyone know if the meet will be streamed live tomorrow?...
nevermind, I may have answered my own question:
should be available here:
joho wrote:
Seeing how he beat a bunch of Africans and Euros at the Olympics, maybe they should be paying attention to what Rupp is doing.
I am. I just made an appointment with Dr. Feeltired right now.
Rupp wearing some new gear
1:45
218er wrote:
Anyone else feel this is a really bad idea for a top 5k/10k guy? Flat our 800 could pull a muscle, tweek a hammy... What will this gain him? I can see an early season 15oom, but 800m seems dangerous. Don't see the Africans, euros doing this? Thoughts?
This is not a typical 5000/10000 trainer. They sprint all year around - like everyone should. What he lacks at this time of year is not speed but anaerobic training. The lactate (blood ph level) might hit him hard at the end.
like i said, not a single 350 miler (not to mention indoors) has ever been slower than 148.
I hear that Wheating is going to jump into this 800 as well!
Windy from the north tonight at 6:35 p.m.
Well-placed source suggests Andrew just might be at the starting line.
ROS wrote:
Rupp wearing some new gear
http://i.imgur.com/sjK5OYI.jpg
Take a look! It's AlSal with the Subway that got all of the comments on the other thread!
kartelite wrote:Why the hell are you inputting 49.4? Even if that is his PR it's gotta be his least reliable one. Stick in his mile or 10k, genius.
idiot
learn to think
if he was capable of 1'45.0, then 49.4 is the concurrent 400 ability at the time that woud allow him to go 26'30 - 26'35, which most discerning posters woud reckon his 10k ability is
as an example, i don't know komen's 400 ability at the time of his 7'20, but i can make a good guess
from another topic
http://www.coolrunning.com.au/forums/index.php?showtopic=9320from a tyler durden :
"Komen (who is a hell of a lot faster than Buster over 1500, 1609.34, 3000 and 5000) did a 800TT and only ran 1:47.3and he was flat out. A week later he ran 7:20 for the 3K!"
it's upto posters if they believe it
prelim line of fit that week is ~
50.9 / 1'47.2 ->
3'30.18
7'20.61
12'39.23
26'25.96
but his endurance coudn't be expected to extend perfectly upto 10k off just 3k/5k training, so a 26'30 - 26'35 wouda been an excellent clocking for him back then
