Atantic Region XC - D3

I might have to agree with the comment that it will be tougher than you might think to make it into nationals at-large. My view kind of comes from the DI system though, and I'm not really sure how similar the new DIII one will be. Either way, the new system is WAY better than the old one.

It's going to be pretty important to get out of the state and hit some meets with big name DIII teams now. I think we'll start seeing some of the NY meets (the ones that have all the same teams at them every week) get a little smaller as teams branch out more.

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Cortland seems to be a little to overhyped in this thread

Maybe, but they should have a strong young team next year, so... they might just live up to it. We'll see, I suppose.

I would agree the SUNY and Upstate teams race each other to much during the season. I hate racing the same people week in and out.

Me too. One year during outdoor, my team went to a meet in virginia and ended up running against Alfred State, Brockport, and UR. There were more WNY teams than local teams at this meet, it was ridiculous.

where is all the heat in this debate

yea your right, what could a bunch of freshmen and sophomores do anyways..

I heard Oswego was getting Eastern Kentucky transfer and 2003 NYS Class A Cross-Country champion Bryan Buchanon from CNS.

Add that with Weston Fellows returning, Tony Battista (didnt run XC last year but had a great track season), Matt Densmore, Julius Wood, Derek Dunning, and Phil Paniebianco and the Lakers might be a team to watch out for this year in the SUNYAC.

Will they run with the likes of Geneseo and Cortland? most likely not...But i think Oswego has a good shot to run with teams like Brockport, Plattsburgh, and Fredonia to end up 3rd or 4th in the conference this upcoming year.

I DON"T THInK SO,. you morons. Watch out cortland will come out strong and then get hurt they overtrain too much and then falter when it really counts, PUSSIES..

When is the last time they really faultered badly or when has there been a case of overtraining. If you want to point towards teams that really faulter when it counts look at teams like NYU (being ranked 10th in the country at one point and not even making nats.) Look at Geneseos' preformance at nationals where first man placed in the 60s or 70s. I don't see cortland as ever being good enough in the past couple of years to really have the opportunity to faulter badly.

NYU was ranked 10th, missed nat's by 2 points and winning regionals by 3. Not much of a choke, they beat CNJ in big meets handily all season, and when you put 5 in the top 23 at regionals one would think you should win. They had their 3rd man off a bit, and two other guys not run well who had been top 5 most of the season. They put 2 in the top 5, with a 15+ second gap from williams to Nally in 6th, They could not control the fact that nobody else in the region decided to show up, and it was basically a tri-meet. There were a ton of guys who everyone on here were saying could/should be top ten last year who s#*t the bed. Kolb, Donohue, Forma, Gaudette, Mcgreal among others who would have broken up the cnj / geneseo pack some.

Did they get beat, yes, did they fall apart, no. Would they have been top 10 at ncaa's, most likely since they would have been 50 points or so up on cnj after 1st man. Williams also seemed to be peaking at the right time

I am sure they will be a very motivated group of guys this year, they return a bunch of guys who ran well indoor and out.

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NYU is not an Ivy. Otherwise they would be in the Ivy League. And Ivy League academics are pathetic. You just pay $40,000 a year for a 3.8 GPA.

who called NYU an Ivy???

I don't think anyone did?

I've been told that Geneseo is the host for Regionals. It's been years since I've followed their results, but they've always been tough on their home course.

I see some people are projecting Geneseo as a top-five team. If history holds, on their home course they could qualify teams on the men's side and the women's.

Geneseo held regionals in 2004 on a sloppy course, which might have been a tad short, but Turner still killed the competition, which brings me to a new question. Who have been your past favorite individual/team performers and dark horses? and was anyone's preseason predictions any close at all with team's or individuals?