Econ dude wrote:
Zero GDP growth since 2019 scares a lot of people. Brexit was poorly executed
I think the Russians executed it very well
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waxonist wrote:
Proper Sam wrote:
Same thing will happen here in November. People are tired of the hatred and negativity coming from the right.
The writing is on the wall. Don’t be surprised when it happens.
good. brexit was (IS) a disaster. it took 8 years for the trump sheep-equivalents of the uk to realize the right-wing leadership was never after their best interests.
Trumpism again loses in ACTUAL elections. Trumpers should be getting used to it.
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Proper Sam wrote:
Same thing will happen here in November. People are tired of the hatred and negativity coming from the right.
The writing is on the wall. Don’t be surprised when it happens.
This is more a rejection of the globalist right. Sunak whose "conservative" party just got trounced is not even close to conservative. He is more the Davos type. What you saw in Britain is a huge portion of the Torries worked to undermine the Brexit movement, then the establishment and government workers worked to destroy the first true Conservative PM since Thatcher and essentially staged a coo to get her out less than two months.
This is more conservative voters abandoning Sunak and his cronies and the rights vote getting split between the establishment and Farage's actual conservative party.
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The Conservatives lost in a landslide because they have made things markedly worse. It's that simple.
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Take a moment and listen the concession speeches by the conservative losers in UK and compare them to Trump and his sycophants.
They are distinguished, Professional, intelligent and even amusing with some good humor.
We used to be that way before Trump.
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Red State Rob wrote:
Proper Sam wrote:
Same thing will happen here in November. People are tired of the hatred and negativity coming from the right.
The writing is on the wall. Don’t be surprised when it happens.
This is more a rejection of the globalist right. Sunak whose "conservative" party just got trounced is not even close to conservative. He is more the Davos type. What you saw in Britain is a huge portion of the Torries worked to undermine the Brexit movement, then the establishment and government workers worked to destroy the first true Conservative PM since Thatcher and essentially staged a coo to get her out less than two months.
This is more conservative voters abandoning Sunak and his cronies and the rights vote getting split between the establishment and Farage's actual conservative party.
If by 'true conservative PM' you mean Liz Truss - she lost her ultra-safe seat to Labour, shedding 43% of her vote and is no longer even an MP.
It must be all those establishment stooges in South West Norfolk!
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Red State Rob wrote:
This is more conservative voters abandoning Sunak and his cronies and the rights vote getting split between the establishment and Farage's actual conservative party.
So C had a 50 seat majority, and blew it. Where did all those votes go?
They voted L. They didn't, "Vote for true conservatives" like Putin Stooge Farage.
This is so typical of Amuricuns - they believe that the entire world conforms to their worldview, and that things abroad happen as they believe they are happening in the US.21 -
Conservatism in UK is not the same as conservatism in USA, just as republican in Ireland means something completely different than Republican in USA.
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hey ho wrote:
If by 'true conservative PM' you mean Liz Truss - she lost her ultra-safe seat to Labour, shedding 43% of her vote and is no longer even an MP.
It must be all those establishment stooges in South West Norfolk!
Jacob Rees-Moog lost too. All the Hard Brexit Dbags lost.
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But guys, I was told the reform party winning 4 whole seats is significant 😂😂😂
such spin, such cope
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Pub Boy wrote:
Red State Rob wrote:
This is more conservative voters abandoning Sunak and his cronies and the rights vote getting split between the establishment and Farage's actual conservative party.
So C had a 50 seat majority, and blew it. Where did all those votes go?
They voted L. They didn't, "Vote for true conservatives" like Putin Stooge Farage.This is so typical of Amuricuns - they believe that the entire world conforms to their worldview, and that things abroad happen as they believe they are happening in the US.
But Labour got less votes than when Corbyn was in charge so that doesn't make sense.
Boris will be back for the next election.
Remember 71% of eligible voters didn't vote Labour.
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the beagle wrote:
But guys, I was told the reform party winning 4 whole seats is significant 😂😂😂
such spin, such cope
They got 5,and 4 million votes,nearly half Labours total.
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Pub Boy wrote:
hey ho wrote:
If by 'true conservative PM' you mean Liz Truss - she lost her ultra-safe seat to Labour, shedding 43% of her vote and is no longer even an MP.
It must be all those establishment stooges in South West Norfolk!
Jacob Rees-Moog lost too. All the Hard Brexit Dbags lost.
Exactly. While it's true Conservatives lost a lot of their 2019 vote to Reform, pre-2019 Tory voters are actually pretty liberal, much of southern England and especially the commuter belt around London is full of Tory voters who are into environmental conservation and highly value the economic and travel arrangements that being part of the EU provided. Those seats are now heavily trending towards 'centrist' Liberal Democrats.
The decision for them now is whether they try and recoup the northern brexity seats that Boris Johnson managed to get, or whether they return to their traditional Tory southern heartlands.
Both options are really difficult as Reform and the Lib Dems are both significant options for their voters now.
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stater of obvious. wrote:
the beagle wrote:
But guys, I was told the reform party winning 4 whole seats is significant 😂😂😂
such spin, such cope
They got 5,and 4 million votes,nearly half Labours total.
While this is true, you're also forgetting significant people voted Liberal Democrat, Green, or independent. Progressive parties made up about 60% of the vote share.
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Proper Sam wrote:
Same thing will happen here in November. People are tired of the hatred and negativity coming from the right.
The writing is on the wall. Don’t be surprised when it happens.
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Worth remembering that Labour ran on a centre right manifesto - main points were economic growth, no tax rises and reduced immigration numbers.
Whether they honour that or not is a different question, but that is what they’ve been given a mandate to deliver.
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stater of obvious. wrote:
the beagle wrote:
But guys, I was told the reform party winning 4 whole seats is significant 😂😂😂
such spin, such cope
They got 5,and 4 million votes,nearly half Labours total.
And they were unable to convert that into anything. Bad politicians
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stater of obvious. wrote:
the beagle wrote:
But guys, I was told the reform party winning 4 whole seats is significant 😂😂😂
such spin, such cope
They got 5,and 4 million votes,nearly half Labours total.
Oh wow, 5 whole seats?! Wild!
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hey ho wrote:
stater of obvious. wrote:
They got 5,and 4 million votes,nearly half Labours total.
While this is true, you're also forgetting significant people voted Liberal Democrat, Green, or independent. Progressive parties made up about 60% of the vote share.
Green got half of Reforms vote,Lib dem have always just been a protest vote party.
Highligh was seeing the Tranie Army demolished in Scotland.
All wee Jimmie Krankies fault.
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the beagle wrote:
stater of obvious. wrote:
They got 5,and 4 million votes,nearly half Labours total.
Oh wow, 5 whole seats?! Wild!
Patronising idiots like yourself are the reason Brexit got done.
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