Did Wiley only race NAIA XC nationals (a race clearly below an elite pro) to be able to still claim an all collegians record since it was set so late in the summer? If she had turned pro in the fall and not gone back and raced once she'd not have been able to use that "record". One less title/accomplishment to list in her bio. Smart money move. It's her name not Simpson's now that gets mentioned anytime an NCAA athlete is trying to go fast.
Dylan Jacobs progression after meeting Duane Ross is well in line with his time at Notre Dame. Tying Dylan Jacobs, who has never been called out on these boards for doping to Duane Ross in effort to defend Addy Wiley (who's making smart money moves and running fast with a coach a lot of people don't like) is a stretch. Just point to BTC or OAC who both have as many or more ties to doping as Wiley's coach. I prefer to assume all athletes are clean until they aren't.
Addy Wiley is a young lady who clearly only wants to be known for racing. Lets speculate on where she's racing this week and what kind of times we are going to see. Lets hope she gets in Millrose, and maybe we get to see her race in glasgow this winter.
There could hardly be a bigger contrast. Ritz left NOP and testified against Salazar after he learned that Salazar had subjected him to an illegal infusion (and lied to him about its legality).
Yes. The Tennessee athletes are guilty by association if Wiley is. After all, their coach is a convicted doper. Wiley's coach isn't a convicted doper. I don't believe Jacobs is doping and I put Wiley's chances even less.
Did Wiley only race NAIA XC nationals (a race clearly below an elite pro) to be able to still claim an all collegians record since it was set so late in the summer? If she had turned pro in the fall and not gone back and raced once she'd not have been able to use that "record". One less title/accomplishment to list in her bio. Smart money move. It's her name not Simpson's now that gets mentioned anytime an NCAA athlete is trying to go fast.
Vivid imagination, but no. In fact, Wiley's results may continue to count for the all-dates list through this summer.
Lisa Koll graduated college in May, turned pro in June, and ran the all-dates collegiate record of 14:55 in July. Valby is listed at #2 on the all-dates list despite Koll being a pro when she ran it.
Athing Mu finished her freshman year at Texas A&M, signed a pro contract in June, and her results from the Olympic Trials (#3), Olympics (#2), and Pre Classic (#1) all are on the all-dates list. She wasn't even a registered student at A&M anymore.
Wiley is currently enrolled at Huntington as a student and just signed a pro contract. Her results will not count as NAIA records anymore but they should count on the all-dates list.
What I am unsure about is will her indoor time this weekend count for the indoor list? If she smashes Tuohy's 1500/mile indoor times, will they count on the indoor list? I don't see why not. The all-dates list is meant to include all races "out of season" but this is right in the middle of the season. We may see a couple collegiate records this weekend at Dr. Sander.
Did Wiley only race NAIA XC nationals (a race clearly below an elite pro) to be able to still claim an all collegians record since it was set so late in the summer? If she had turned pro in the fall and not gone back and raced once she'd not have been able to use that "record". One less title/accomplishment to list in her bio. Smart money move. It's her name not Simpson's now that gets mentioned anytime an NCAA athlete is trying to go fast.
Vivid imagination, but no. In fact, Wiley's results may continue to count for the all-dates list through this summer.
Lisa Koll graduated college in May, turned pro in June, and ran the all-dates collegiate record of 14:55 in July. Valby is listed at #2 on the all-dates list despite Koll being a pro when she ran it.
Athing Mu finished her freshman year at Texas A&M, signed a pro contract in June, and her results from the Olympic Trials (#3), Olympics (#2), and Pre Classic (#1) all are on the all-dates list. She wasn't even a registered student at A&M anymore.
Wiley is currently enrolled at Huntington as a student and just signed a pro contract. Her results will not count as NAIA records anymore but they should count on the all-dates list.
What I am unsure about is will her indoor time this weekend count for the indoor list? If she smashes Tuohy's 1500/mile indoor times, will they count on the indoor list? I don't see why not. The all-dates list is meant to include all races "out of season" but this is right in the middle of the season. We may see a couple collegiate records this weekend at Dr. Sander.
Times as a professional don't count toward a collegiate list.
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"This 'all-dates' list combines all indoor and outdoor marks and from all points on the calendar. Marks from after the collegiate season were made by collegians who used a year of eligibility during the year in question. The USTFCCCA Communications Office does not recognize marks after the collegiate season as 'records' or as holding spots on the official all-time lists. Thus, this list is for reference only. To find officially recognized marks, use the single-sport lists provided for 'indoor' and 'outdoor' track & field."
There is still a cut-off for the all college list after the college season is over if I recall. Wiley's best races were in September after cross country was starting. Without actually racing cross country it might have been too late in the season to count. If that's the case, it was smart. But her times this weekend are as a pro.
Did Wiley only race NAIA XC nationals (a race clearly below an elite pro) to be able to still claim an all collegians record since it was set so late in the summer? If she had turned pro in the fall and not gone back and raced once she'd not have been able to use that "record". One less title/accomplishment to list in her bio. Smart money move. It's her name not Simpson's now that gets mentioned anytime an NCAA athlete is trying to go fast.
Vivid imagination, but no. In fact, Wiley's results may continue to count for the all-dates list through this summer.
Lisa Koll graduated college in May, turned pro in June, and ran the all-dates collegiate record of 14:55 in July. Valby is listed at #2 on the all-dates list despite Koll being a pro when she ran it.
Athing Mu finished her freshman year at Texas A&M, signed a pro contract in June, and her results from the Olympic Trials (#3), Olympics (#2), and Pre Classic (#1) all are on the all-dates list. She wasn't even a registered student at A&M anymore.
Wiley is currently enrolled at Huntington as a student and just signed a pro contract. Her results will not count as NAIA records anymore but they should count on the all-dates list.
What I am unsure about is will her indoor time this weekend count for the indoor list? If she smashes Tuohy's 1500/mile indoor times, will they count on the indoor list? I don't see why not. The all-dates list is meant to include all races "out of season" but this is right in the middle of the season. We may see a couple collegiate records this weekend at Dr. Sander.
There are several different lists of "all time dates" and different lists are using different criteria of who is, and who isn't, still eligible to set a college record.
The CORRECT way of looking at it, is if someone goes pro, then they lose their college eligibility and they are no longer part of their college team, and so they should no longer be eligible to set a college record.
You're confused. An athlete's agent works for the athlete. The agent is NOT the athlete's boss. The agent is NOT in charge of deciding who the athlete decides to use as their coach.