No, it is not slow. But (a questionable) 1:46.3 isn't any indication that the athlete is WORLD CLASS. For a 17 yo who also has achieved great times up to 3000m it's absolutely remarkable - but not world class.
Yet it remains faster than performances from athletes we acknowledge are world class - like Amos and Murphy. As I said, it is also less than half a second slower than Wottle's winning time in Munich and would have put him in the middle of the pack in an Olympic 800m final. But I guess they weren't "world class" then.
Have you heard that distance races are not always run at maximum speed? Laros would not have finished in the middle of the pack in an Olympic final. 1:46.3 is not in the top 130 this season. Around 1000 athletes have run faster in history. No, a hand timed and questianable 1:46.3 is no indication that the athlete is a world class 800m runner.
Have you heard that distance races are not always run at maximum speed? Laros would not have finished in the middle of the pack in an Olympic final. 1:46.3 is not in the top 130 this season. Around 1000 athletes have run faster in history. No, a hand timed and questianable 1:46.3 is no indication that the athlete is a world class 800m runner.
It is the same time as Snell winning gold in an Olympic record at Rome. But they didn't dope much in those days. It is also faster than two known world-class runners in the last Olympic final. But I guess guys like you run 1.46 every week.
You found another great argument, Army!
Armstronglivs:
3:51.2 is a world class 1500m time.
It is the same time as Beccali winning gold in an Olympic record at Los Angeles. But they didn't dope much in those days. It is also faster than five known world-class runners in the next to last Olympic final. But I guess guys like you run 3:51 every week.
Your last argument really is one of the most stupid arguments ever used.
Hey Army, 1.50 meter is a world class mens high jump mark. Because I can't jump that high every week.
It is the same time as Snell winning gold in an Olympic record at Rome. But they didn't dope much in those days. It is also faster than two known world-class runners in the last Olympic final. But I guess guys like you run 1.46 every week.
You found another great argument, Army!
Armstronglivs:
3:51.2 is a world class 1500m time.
It is the same time as Beccali winning gold in an Olympic record at Los Angeles. But they didn't dope much in those days. It is also faster than five known world-class runners in the next to last Olympic final. But I guess guys like you run 3:51 every week.
Your last argument really is one of the most stupid arguments ever used.
Hey Army, 1.50 meter is a world class mens high jump mark. Because I can't jump that high every week.
And 2 meter is a world class pole vault mark...
Army is completely ignorant of all things high performance. He thinks Coe's WR is more impressive than Rudisha's because he took a bigger chunk off the previous record. He doesn't understand the simple fact that as WRs get faster they get harder to beat and even a few tenths off a second are extremely hard to get in the 800/1500m
He is a sad 69 year old. Look at his posting times. He spends more than 6 hours posting here almost every day, goes to bed after 2 a.m. and is up at 6 or 7 a.m. posting here again.
And being a narcissist he will (want to) believe I know this because I follow his every post. But no. It's just that he pollutes the forum so often that at one point one wonders if this person ever gets off the internet. Almost 70 years of age and spending 6 hours on Letsrun spewing venom... Sad.
It is the same time as Snell winning gold in an Olympic record at Rome. But they didn't dope much in those days. It is also faster than two known world-class runners in the last Olympic final. But I guess guys like you run 1.46 every week.
You found another great argument, Army!
Armstronglivs:
3:51.2 is a world class 1500m time.
It is the same time as Beccali winning gold in an Olympic record at Los Angeles. But they didn't dope much in those days. It is also faster than five known world-class runners in the next to last Olympic final. But I guess guys like you run 3:51 every week.
Your last argument really is one of the most stupid arguments ever used.
Hey Army, 1.50 meter is a world class mens high jump mark. Because I can't jump that high every week.
And 2 meter is a world class pole vault mark...
So schoolboys everywhere are as fast as Snell was. And his Rome victory was only worth a 3.51 1500. It's a bit odd though that his 1.46 was still faster than Amos and Murphy achieved in last year's Olympic final. A couple of hobby joggers.
Yet it remains faster than performances from athletes we acknowledge are world class - like Amos and Murphy. As I said, it is also less than half a second slower than Wottle's winning time in Munich and would have put him in the middle of the pack in an Olympic 800m final. But I guess they weren't "world class" then.
Have you heard that distance races are not always run at maximum speed? Laros would not have finished in the middle of the pack in an Olympic final. 1:46.3 is not in the top 130 this season. Around 1000 athletes have run faster in history. No, a hand timed and questianable 1:46.3 is no indication that the athlete is a world class 800m runner.
So more posts are deleted because they offend the echo chamber here. 1.46.3 is faster than some world class athletes achieved in last year's Olympic final. "World class" is what international competitors run in competition - it isn't their pr's - which they necessarily run only once.
It is the same time as Beccali winning gold in an Olympic record at Los Angeles. But they didn't dope much in those days. It is also faster than five known world-class runners in the next to last Olympic final. But I guess guys like you run 3:51 every week.
Your last argument really is one of the most stupid arguments ever used.
Hey Army, 1.50 meter is a world class mens high jump mark. Because I can't jump that high every week.
And 2 meter is a world class pole vault mark...
Army is completely ignorant of all things high performance. He thinks Coe's WR is more impressive than Rudisha's because he took a bigger chunk off the previous record. He doesn't understand the simple fact that as WRs get faster they get harder to beat and even a few tenths off a second are extremely hard to get in the 800/1500m
He is a sad 69 year old. Look at his posting times. He spends more than 6 hours posting here almost every day, goes to bed after 2 a.m. and is up at 6 or 7 a.m. posting here again.
And being a narcissist he will (want to) believe I know this because I follow his every post. But no. It's just that he pollutes the forum so often that at one point one wonders if this person ever gets off the internet. Almost 70 years of age and spending 6 hours on Letsrun spewing venom... Sad.
Denial certainly requires a lot of your attention - and effort.
It is the same time as Beccali winning gold in an Olympic record at Los Angeles. But they didn't dope much in those days. It is also faster than five known world-class runners in the next to last Olympic final. But I guess guys like you run 3:51 every week.
Your last argument really is one of the most stupid arguments ever used.
Hey Army, 1.50 meter is a world class mens high jump mark. Because I can't jump that high every week.
And 2 meter is a world class pole vault mark...
So schoolboys everywhere are as fast as Snell was. And his Rome victory was only worth a 3.51 1500. It's a bit odd though that his 1.46 was still faster than Amos and Murphy achieved in last year's Olympic final. A couple of hobby joggers.
1:46.3 is much better than 3:51 - what are you talking?
Which schoolboys are as fast as Snell was?
Hobby joggers in an Olympic final?
You completely lost control of what you are writing. Here any sentence is completely nonsense. What's wrong?
Have you heard that distance races are not always run at maximum speed? Laros would not have finished in the middle of the pack in an Olympic final. 1:46.3 is not in the top 130 this season. Around 1000 athletes have run faster in history. No, a hand timed and questianable 1:46.3 is no indication that the athlete is a world class 800m runner.
So more posts are deleted because they offend the echo chamber here. 1.46.3 is faster than some world class athletes achieved in last year's Olympic final. "World class" is what international competitors run in competition - it isn't their pr's - which they necessarily run only once.
No, Army. 3:50.0 is not a mens world class 1500m time, also it was achieved by a world class athlete in the most important competition, the Olympic final. Only world class athletes can run 1500m in 3:50 the way it was done in this Olympic final, but the time itself is not world class. I hope I have clarified it enough for you now.
So schoolboys everywhere are as fast as Snell was. And his Rome victory was only worth a 3.51 1500. It's a bit odd though that his 1.46 was still faster than Amos and Murphy achieved in last year's Olympic final. A couple of hobby joggers.
1:46.3 is much better than 3:51 - what are you talking?
Which schoolboys are as fast as Snell was?
Hobby joggers in an Olympic final?
You completely lost control of what you are writing. Here any sentence is completely nonsense. What's wrong?
Your user name is appropriately chosen. Keeping up with an argument is not your forte.
So schoolboys everywhere are as fast as Snell was. And his Rome victory was only worth a 3.51 1500. It's a bit odd though that his 1.46 was still faster than Amos and Murphy achieved in last year's Olympic final. A couple of hobby joggers.
1:46.3 is much better than 3:51 - what are you talking?
Which schoolboys are as fast as Snell was?
Hobby joggers in an Olympic final?
You completely lost control of what you are writing. Here any sentence is completely nonsense. What's wrong?
So more posts are deleted because they offend the echo chamber here. 1.46.3 is faster than some world class athletes achieved in last year's Olympic final. "World class" is what international competitors run in competition - it isn't their pr's - which they necessarily run only once.
No, Army. 3:50.0 is not a mens world class 1500m time, also it was achieved by a world class athlete in the most important competition, the Olympic final. Only world class athletes can run 1500m in 3:50 the way it was done in this Olympic final, but the time itself is not world class. I hope I have clarified it enough for you now.
No, you haven't. The point I was making is that a 3.50 for the 1500 is in no way comparable to 1.46 for the 800. That converts to 3.37 or so for the 1500 (which is the best time for the world record holder over the 5k and 10k). "World-class" is a respectable time in international competition - but it isn't necessarily an athlete's pr at that level or a championship medalling time. It obviously doesn't include races like the dawdle that was the Rio 1500 final - for which the 800 equivalent would probably be 1.54.
1.46 at 17 is clearly exceptional and if I recall correctly it is faster than Rudisha was at that age.
So schoolboys everywhere are as fast as Snell was. And his Rome victory was only worth a 3.51 1500. It's a bit odd though that his 1.46 was still faster than Amos and Murphy achieved in last year's Olympic final. A couple of hobby joggers.
1:46.3 is much better than 3:51 - what are you talking?
Which schoolboys are as fast as Snell was?
Hobby joggers in an Olympic final?
You completely lost control of what you are writing. Here any sentence is completely nonsense. What's wrong?
You understood none of the points my comment was directed to, which was chiefly that comparing 1.46 to historical performances like Snell at Rome (or Wottle at Munich) is not saying that any or all historical performances are comparable. Schoolboys today can routinely run as fast as Beccali in Los Angeles in 1932, but very few can get near what Snell and Wottle ran.
1:46.3 is much better than 3:51 - what are you talking?
Which schoolboys are as fast as Snell was?
Hobby joggers in an Olympic final?
You completely lost control of what you are writing. Here any sentence is completely nonsense. What's wrong?
You understood none of the points my comment was directed to, which was chiefly that comparing 1.46 to historical performances like Snell at Rome (or Wottle at Munich) is not saying that any or all historical performances are comparable. Schoolboys today can routinely run as fast as Beccali in Los Angeles in 1932, but very few can get near what Snell and Wottle ran.
I've exactly used your argumentation you used to "prove" 1:46 is a world class 800m time to "prove" 3:50 is a world class 1500m time. For sure these argumentation is completely nonsense.
1:46.3 is not a world class 800m time. More than 130 runners have run faster just in this season.
You understood none of the points my comment was directed to, which was chiefly that comparing 1.46 to historical performances like Snell at Rome (or Wottle at Munich) is not saying that any or all historical performances are comparable. Schoolboys today can routinely run as fast as Beccali in Los Angeles in 1932, but very few can get near what Snell and Wottle ran.
I've exactly used your argumentation you used to "prove" 1:46 is a world class 800m time to "prove" 3:50 is a world class 1500m time. For sure these argumentation is completely nonsense.
1:46.3 is not a world class 800m time. More than 130 runners have run faster just in this season.
No, you haven't used my argument. You haven't got it. But keep telling me how pedestrian 1.46 is. And at a global and thus international level, is 130 a lot of runners against the thousands competing in that event on the track, who are only at a local, provincial, regional and maybe national level ?
