Idk - don’t some kids walk farther getting dragged around Disney all day in the heat? 8.5 hours is a long time to be walking but I don’t think it rises to the level of abuse. That being said, I agree with the poster who detected an ‘influencer vibe’ and I think this was clearly attention-seeking. I am strongly repulsed by people who use kids as social media props. So not abusive, but decidedly not admirable either.
. I walked clear across Milan when I was 10. My parents had dropped me off for soccer practice across the city and the practice was cancelled but cancellation was not properly communicated.
Did you tie an onion to your belt? I had similar experiences as a child, but it involved walking through Jersey City to get to Hoboken after the PATH shut down or riding my bike on busy roads to get to somewhere but it doesn’t make it right or responsible parenting.
Am surprised by the number of strong reactions decrying this incident and non-adults running marathons. There isn’t medical evidence known for any worrisome long-term damage because of teenagers running marathons. Studies do show that the young Dr they are, the less injured by distance running they are. Even high school vs. college makes a difference, high schoolers being more resilient to injury.
As for kids, they instinctively have a pretty good form for just about any exercise, especially running. Ask a child to do a bar-only deadlift and prepare to be amazed. Children also have little sense of delayed gratification or pain tolerance: if something is reaching breaking point, they will stop. Immediately. And cry their hearts out if parents try to force them to run against their will. And if something does break despite this innately over-conservative child personality, they heal like magic. The younger you are, the more likely you are to bounce right back.
You can critique the Instagrammy culture all you want but the kid was fine and begging to “run”, which at slower than 19’ average pace done willingly is perfectly fine.
Am surprised by the number of strong reactions decrying this incident and non-adults running marathons. There isn’t medical evidence known for any worrisome long-term damage because of teenagers running marathons. Studies do show that the young Dr they are, the less injured by distance running they are. Even high school vs. college makes a difference, high schoolers being more resilient to injury.
As for kids, they instinctively have a pretty good form for just about any exercise, especially running. Ask a child to do a bar-only deadlift and prepare to be amazed. Children also have little sense of delayed gratification or pain tolerance: if something is reaching breaking point, they will stop. Immediately. And cry their hearts out if parents try to force them to run against their will. And if something does break despite this innately over-conservative child personality, they heal like magic. The younger you are, the more likely you are to bounce right back.
You can critique the Instagrammy culture all you want but the kid was fine and begging to “run”, which at slower than 19’ average pace done willingly is perfectly fine.
If you punch a kid in the face they probably bounce back pretty quick too, but doesn't mean you should.
Idk - don’t some kids walk farther getting dragged around Disney all day in the heat? 8.5 hours is a long time to be walking but I don’t think it rises to the level of abuse. That being said, I agree with the poster who detected an ‘influencer vibe’ and I think this was clearly attention-seeking. I am strongly repulsed by people who use kids as social media props. So not abusive, but decidedly not admirable either.
There is no way that any kid in history got dragged around at Disney over a Marathon distance.
Maybe 10 miles but I would think it will be a lot less than that.
Am surprised by the number of strong reactions decrying this incident and non-adults running marathons. There isn’t medical evidence known for any worrisome long-term damage because of teenagers running marathons. Studies do show that the young Dr they are, the less injured by distance running they are. Even high school vs. college makes a difference, high schoolers being more resilient to injury.
As for kids, they instinctively have a pretty good form for just about any exercise, especially running. Ask a child to do a bar-only deadlift and prepare to be amazed. Children also have little sense of delayed gratification or pain tolerance: if something is reaching breaking point, they will stop. Immediately. And cry their hearts out if parents try to force them to run against their will. And if something does break despite this innately over-conservative child personality, they heal like magic. The younger you are, the more likely you are to bounce right back.
You can critique the Instagrammy culture all you want but the kid was fine and begging to “run”, which at slower than 19’ average pace done willingly is perfectly fine.
If you punch a kid in the face they probably bounce back pretty quick too, but doesn't mean you should.
Weak non-sequitorial strawman. No kid begs to be punched, and if still punched, they will cry and make their displeasure known at the abuse. Nothing like that happened, but criticizing other people’s parenting is rich and comes easy to most, I suppose.
If you punch a kid in the face they probably bounce back pretty quick too, but doesn't mean you should.
Weak non-sequitorial strawman. No kid begs to be punched, and if still punched, they will cry and make their displeasure known at the abuse. Nothing like that happened, but criticizing other people’s parenting is rich and comes easy to most, I suppose.
If they didn't understand what "being punched" meant they might just beg to be punched. There is no way that this kid understood what a Marathon is before he "begged" to do it.
There is no way that any kid in history got dragged around at Disney over a Marathon distance.
Maybe 10 miles but I would think it will be a lot less than that.
Of course, being a bit hyperbolic. We stayed on property in the hotel with the Safari in 2016. I had some type of pedometer and tracked the distance over a day that started at 630 am and ended at 10 pm. We walked 15 miles and I was exhausted. My kids were fine, I just considered this spousal abuse. I’ve hiked that with a small amount of gear and not been as tired. Just something about unremitting heat and crowds.
Weak non-sequitorial strawman. No kid begs to be punched, and if still punched, they will cry and make their displeasure known at the abuse. Nothing like that happened, but criticizing other people’s parenting is rich and comes easy to most, I suppose.
If they didn't understand what "being punched" meant they might just beg to be punched. There is no way that this kid understood what a Marathon is before he "begged" to do it.
Glad to see we are in agreement on “if still punched, they will cry and make their displeasure known… Nothing like that happened…”, as I’m sure you didn’t mean to selectively omit those parts twice in two posts to fortify a straw man.😅
I would think running in a crowd like that would have a significant risk of getting trampled with a such a little kid especially if he's constantly stopping. In fact the parents needed to tie balloons on his waist to make sure he was visible to adult runners. That alone seems to be incredibly dumb and potentially dangerous.
The part that I think shows that my parents were really looking out for my well-being is that when I asked to run a marathon they said "Yes, but you have to finish a 5k, a 10k and then a half marathon first". Since it took about 2 years for me to complete the pre-requisites, I showed that I was serious and that I was capable of running the distance without distress.
I can't imagine one of my kids (I have 2, 13 and 14) having that kind of love and dedication for running, which is why there is no way I would endorse them running a marathon in their current state. In fact I would totally discourage even a 30 year old from "running" a marathon if they are not prepared
I would think running in a crowd like that would have a significant risk of getting trampled with a such a little kid especially if he's constantly stopping. In fact the parents needed to tie balloons on his waist to make sure he was visible to adult runners. That alone seems to be incredibly dumb and potentially dangerous.
Well if he got trampled at least they will have their phones out and get a good video so they can post it on TikToc, like any responsible adult.
The fact that she needed your permission when she was over 18 is worrying.
Because 18-year-olds are known for their excellent decision making...
Tell me you aren't a parent without telling me you aren't a parent.
Omg are you serious? No wonder this generation is full of snowflakes. I moved out after high school and have been financially independent and made decisions for myself ever since.
The six year olds in China that made his shoes were probably tired near the end of their 8 hour shift but you didn't see them crying or asking for breaks every three minutes.
The young man needs to toughen up.
Of course we didn't see that, we aren't in the factories with them. To think that they never ask for a break and don't cry would be absurd. The terrible working conditions are well documented.
This past weekend a 6 year old ran a marathon with his entire family -- you can find them at @fightfortogether on Instagram. They finished as an entire family in 8.5 hours.
The Flying Pig Marathon released a statement saying "the flying pig marathon takes the safety and security of all participants very seriously. We receive numerous requests for special accommodations each year and carefully evaluate each one. Our goal is to provide a positive race experience for all participants while supporting them along the course."
surely this isn't ok? The family said the kid begged them to do it, but what 6 year old knows how hard a marathon is?
It's amazing when parents let their children make decisions like this because they are too afraid to actually parent. Or maybe they're stupid and irresponsible? Idk. But I wouldn't be surprised if this kid eats pizza and chicken nuggets for the rest of its life either.
This past weekend a 6 year old ran a marathon with his entire family -- you can find them at @fightfortogether on Instagram. They finished as an entire family in 8.5 hours.
The Flying Pig Marathon released a statement saying "the flying pig marathon takes the safety and security of all participants very seriously. We receive numerous requests for special accommodations each year and carefully evaluate each one. Our goal is to provide a positive race experience for all participants while supporting them along the course."
surely this isn't ok? The family said the kid begged them to do it, but what 6 year old knows how hard a marathon is?
This thread seems full of idiotic holier-than-thou parenting authorities.
1) The kid had plenty of distance running training. The parents weren’t stupid enough to just drag him out of bed to run a marathon.
2) The kid was crying at mile 20 because it was late (over 7 hours) and all the chips were gone at the mile 20 stalls. Crying yes. For potato chips he was rightfully expecting. How come he had that expectation? Coz it wasn’t his first time.
3) I’d love to see scientific data on this “growth plates damage” BS because of distance running in kids that everyone is propagating. There is no such evidence. Sounds like the BS about uteruses falling out of women if they ran a marathon because it seemed “obvious” to everyone back then that women’s physiologies were not capable of running 26 miles.
4) The race directors were satisfied with allowing an exception based on his training. The kid is fine. What 6-year old knows what it’s like to run a marathon? This particular kid.
5) Kara Goucher is stupid first because anyone who starts a form tweet like “I don’t know who needs to hear this.. “ is stupid. Secondly, for claiming the kid didn’t realize he had a right to stop coz it’s not her kid so she couldn’t possibly know. The kid was offered a promise of an extra bag of chips for continuing after mile 20 or stopping right there, and believe it or not, the kid demonstrated agency that normal 6-year olds have. Anyone including most adults who run marathons have to and choose to bear some pain for delayed gratification.
”Crawford posted that “On the marathon course, Rainier knew they usually hand out Pringles around mile 20. He was struggling physically and wanted to take a break and sit every three minutes. After 7 hours, we finally got to mile 20 and only to find an abandoned table and empty boxes. He was crying and we were moving slow so I told him I’d buy him two sleeves if he kept moving. I had to promise him another sleeve to get him in the family pic at the finish line. Today I paid him off.”
Implementing a minimum age limit for a grueling event such as a marathon seems fair. We wouldn’t ask a 6 year old to do a full triathlon.
Also seems only fair to implement a minimum wage limit for a people doing grueling work such as a marathon. And child labor laws will automatically do the rest.