zxcvzxcv wrote:
So, now Republicans are pro-shutdown?
So, "liberals" are now anti-protest bootlickers and authoritarian shills? Didn't see that one coming.
zxcvzxcv wrote:
So, now Republicans are pro-shutdown?
So, "liberals" are now anti-protest bootlickers and authoritarian shills? Didn't see that one coming.
costing other peoples money wrote:
They are costing us all money. They have NO right. Arrest them.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/09/ambassador-bridge-blockade-freedom-convoy-00007456
LOL!!!! But you didn't want the Left Wing lunatics arrested who tore down cities for months!!!!! You liberals are so dumb it's pathetic.
llort_vbo wrote:
I’ll field this one - better shredded and flushed than put on an insecure server for China and Russia to peruse.I like how the ‘defund the police’ lefties want to use police force to enact their policies when they can’t convince people that the p!ss in their ear is rain. I know! Maybe Canada could get some police who were undercover to infiltrate the truckers and report on their activities!
The police DON'T have a vaccine mandate for their jobs...so they cops don't have to get vaccinated but they have to arrest people that don't want to get vaccinated? That's some germany gestapo stuff.
Don't arrest the truckers, arrest Trudeau.
That might have been a more effective retort before we learned that Ivanka, Jared and Agent Orange himself Adolf Twitler were all found to use their own devices and 3rd party apps for insecure communications...
costing other peoples money wrote:
They are costing us all money. They have NO right. Arrest them.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/09/ambassador-bridge-blockade-freedom-convoy-00007456
Were you saying this about politicians during lockdowns? When our economy was at a stand still? Yeah they are costing us money, but it's a peaceful protest. "Those who make peaceful protest impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy
Don't be an authoritarian. Support these people's right to protest, even if you disagree with their stance. I know that might be hard, but that's an ideal of western thought.
Grace Kelly wrote:
runnerboy70 wrote:Totalitarian left wingers on full display here....Remember when they cheered on the violent, Antifa and BLM mobsters who caused billions in damage and 24 deaths?These truckers represent a popular movement and are entirely peaceful...Hopefully this spreads to the US...
Maybe, to your neighborhood. Maybe they'll block your way home, or, God forbid, emergency services should you require them. Nothing screams freedom like limiting the actual freedom of others.
yeah,yeah,yeah, blocking emergency vehicles ... I don't remember too many liberal aholes getting upset at the BLM marchers blocking freeways and city streets.
Tons of democrats didn't like the BLM riots just sayin.
Listen, it would be fun getting you all riled up so you have to take your digoxin/nitroglycerin but you’re kind of boring. To compare those two situation shows a startling lack of understanding and I don’t really care about what you’re prattling on about. The fact that Trump lives in your head so rent free is sad. Is it because Biden and Harris are such abysmal failures that you want to deflect so badly? Ofa Lon teh, man, ofa Lon teh!
If I am keeping score on this issue here is what it appears to come down to...
Right wing favors their protests and not the left wing protests
Left wing favors their protest and not the right wing protests
And we will have 10 more thread pages calling out hypocrisy of the other side.
Say what you will about Seidel thinking the running posts make this place a cesspool, it's threads like this that make this site a joke.
I would just like to point out that I’m vaxxed and boosted, even got a flu shot this year. Doesn’t mean I have to run around and force everybody else too. I talked about it with my GP and made the decision I felt was best for me and my family.
It's amusing that most people have been OK with mandatory vaccines for schoolchildren for decades even though the burden of those diseases was far lower than COVID.
Now COVID comes along and kills and unprecedented number of people in the modern era and... everyone acts like some kind of freedom fighter. Wait until you all hear what the state forces children to get vaccinated against?
Also the truckers are moronic. COVID vaccines are among the greatest cost:benefit plays in the history of public health. I fully support their right to be aggressively and disruptively stupid, however. I enjoy laughing at the self-righteousness and tantrums.
Ima hafta stop ya there…. Are you really saying the burden of polio was far lower than COVID? Measles? Mumps? Rubella? Do you understand herd immunity?
If trolling: do better.
If not: do much better.
WiTuLo wrote:
Grace Kelly wrote:
Maybe, to your neighborhood. Maybe they'll block your way home, or, God forbid, emergency services should you require them. Nothing screams freedom like limiting the actual freedom of others.
yeah,yeah,yeah, blocking emergency vehicles ... I don't remember too many liberal aholes getting upset at the BLM marchers blocking freeways and city streets.
Leftists are incapable of self-awareness.
You can't reason with people as dumb as Grace Kelly.
Harambe wrote:
It's amusing that most people have been OK with mandatory vaccines for schoolchildren for decades even though the burden of those diseases was far lower than COVID.Now COVID comes along and kills and unprecedented number of people in the modern era and... everyone acts like some kind of freedom fighter. Wait until you all hear what the state forces children to get vaccinated against?Also the truckers are moronic. COVID vaccines are among the greatest cost:benefit plays in the history of public health. I fully support their right to be aggressively and disruptively stupid, however. I enjoy laughing at the self-righteousness and tantrums.
Who's dumber the trucker (90% of whom are vaccinated) who wants an end to mask mandates and vaccination passports or the guy who made his mind up about the protest despite having absolutely no idea what they're actually protesting?
Yes, the burden of all these diseases (save perhaps polio) was far lower than COVID:
Measles killed less than 1k people a year
Polio killed ~3k people a year (but was probably the worst on the list because it disabled ~15k)
Mumps killed less than 100 per year
Peak rubella epidemics caused ~10k stillbirths and ~20k cases of birth defects
COVID kills roughly 500k people a year in the US. Weight it by age, weight it by population growth. You're not gonna come close to the burden of COVID.
There's a misconception that other mandatory vaccines offer markedly different risk:reward ratios. They do not.
There's a bitcoin donation campaign that has currently raised 15.93 Bitcoin ($702k).
the donation campaign is for the truckers if that wasn't obvious to some
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Harambe wrote:
It's amusing that most people have been OK with mandatory vaccines for schoolchildren for decades even though the burden of those diseases was far lower than COVID.Now COVID comes along and kills and unprecedented number of people in the modern era and... everyone acts like some kind of freedom fighter. Wait until you all hear what the state forces children to get vaccinated against?Also the truckers are moronic. COVID vaccines are among the greatest cost:benefit plays in the history of public health. I fully support their right to be aggressively and disruptively stupid, however. I enjoy laughing at the self-righteousness and tantrums.
Who's dumber the trucker (90% of whom are vaccinated) who wants an end to mask mandates and vaccination passports or the guy who made his mind up about the protest despite having absolutely no idea what they're actually protesting?
Me: Dying of COVID is bad. We should do simple, low cost things to help people not die of COVID.
You: Dying of COVID is good. I want the pandemic to continue forever. Death to my countrymen!
Eyeroll.
Harambe wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Who's dumber the trucker (90% of whom are vaccinated) who wants an end to mask mandates and vaccination passports or the guy who made his mind up about the protest despite having absolutely no idea what they're actually protesting?
Me: Dying of COVID is bad. We should do simple, low cost things to help people not die of COVID.You: Dying of COVID is good. I want the pandemic to continue forever. Death to my countrymen!Eyeroll.
No on opposes reasonable measures. Mask mandates for toddlers and school kids that have ZERO benefit are not reasonable.
Vaccine mandates are not reasonable when the vaccine does not stop transmission or infection.
You literally hate these people. Stop pretending you care what happens to them as if that's your actual concern.
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